Why the Left coast is stubbornly insane?

[Just Jim]

You have no faith in what he says because it doesn't agree with what you think. It's the same old story..."My mind is made up so don't try to confuse me with facts."

If you could understand facts you would be where you are today When facts are incomplete like what he posted then he either isn't smart enough to compile them or has an agenda in hiding them. Matters little to you though, right

jj

 

[Just Jim]

See, Jim, you prove my point. You just cannot be civil to other people.

I am civil but I doubt you understand. You made no point because you failed to see both sides, his and mine. Obviously you can't be objective so you must call me uncivil to hide your bias toward your point of view. If you saw both sides you would have read about QE2 and what it will do. Don't call me uncivil because you are uninformed.

In the end if you did a real study you might improve your condition. Only if you move away from counting on government and stand on your own feet.

jj

 

[8ball]

Stay with the koolaide and the liberal think tanks like Snopes, this will all work out if you just keep believing.

Snopes is a liberal think tank? I guess you can substantiate that, just like you substantiate all your other wild claims you post here?

 

[Just Jim]

Snopes is a liberal think tank? I guess you can substantiate that, just like you substantiate all your other wild claims you post here?

Get back to me when you get some comeplete data on how many people are really on the governemt dole. Like I said, either you have an agenda or you don't have the ability. Calling my claims wild while you speak half truths (at best) is kinda hypocritical.

jj

 

[A2theK]

Yeah what he said.


Divide and conquer via partisan politics - that sounds like a good scheme.

BTW: Drugs were criminalized in order to control another sector of our lives. The criminal industry created was unforeseen. Kind of like introducing a non native animal into an ecosystem to eat something and oops!!

 

[silentslammer]

A2, ya thats it. It couldnt be due to drugs providing a degenerate lifestyle and passive-aggressive unproductive society. Paranoia is a by product of drug use and I have witnessed very much of it in the NorthWest. Other than treating pain there is very little use of drugs other than escaping life and one's fears.

 

[A2theK]

A2, ya thats it. It couldnt be due to drugs providing a degenerate lifestyle and passive-aggressive unproductive society. Paranoia is a by product of drug use and I have witnessed very much of it in the NorthWest. Other than treating pain there is very little use of drugs other than escaping life and one's fears.

Have you ever been outside the US? Have you tried those drugs so you have any knowledge of them?

Just sayin'

 

[8ball]

Get back to me when you get some comeplete data on how many people are really on the governemt dole. Like I said, either you have an agenda or you don't have the ability. Calling my claims wild while you speak half truths (at best) is kinda hypocritical.

You were the one making the claim that 48% of people in Oregon were on the dole. I'm calling you out - the burden of proof is on you to substantiate it. You seem pretty firm in the belief so it must have come from somewhere. My good faith best effort using documented sources came to 10%, so you only need to find another million people.

BTW, it's 'complete' and 'government'.

 

[silentslammer]

A2, just Vancouver BC Canada and a one year stint serving in Germany for the Army. Of course the Army wouldnt let us use drugs, but I witnessed much degeneracy on the streets due to legalized drugs in Amsterdam, Berlin and Frankfurt.

 

[pdxjohann]

Snopes is a liberal think tank?
Bush tried to rein in Fannie / Freddie?
Banks bailed out by who now?
2 wars sucking national treasure for hidden reasons? (He tried to kill my daddy!)

Guys, literacy is participatory.

 

[wheretheheckami]

Snopes is a liberal think tank?
Bush tried to rein in Fannie / Freddie?
Banks bailed out by who now?
2 wars sucking national treasure for hidden reasons? (He tried to kill my daddy!)

Guys, literacy is participatory.

Now see here:
YouTube - Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown

and for the fox hating leftee's:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print

 

[Jamie6.5]

Snopes is a liberal think tank?
Bush tried to rein in Fannie / Freddie?
Banks bailed out by who now?
2 wars sucking national treasure for hidden reasons? (He tried to kill my daddy!)

Guys, literacy is participatory.

Yes literacy is indeed participatory,...
Which means you didn't read the links I provided huh?

That is called "willful ignorance," and you are no doubt using it to defend (sic) your position/statements.
Which some leftist like the crew at MSNBC or HuffPo no doubt fed you, and you continue to parrot like a good little democrat.

Expand your sources. If you want to engage in an honest discussion you'll have to be more diligent in seeking out the facts. You could start with my previous links, and the video posted by wheretheheckami, as it shows portions of the actual footage of the arguments outlined in my links.

Then of course, you can get more here if you can spare 8-1/2 minutes of your busy life to educate yourself about the issue, and who bears responsibility for the mess:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs&feature=related

The real criminals, those that refused to heed the warnings about the risks involved at F&F, are shown putting forward their own arguments to allow F&F to continue without regulation. This is C-Span video, so no accusations of Fox News spinning it will exonerate them.

Now let's see if you can absorb what you are shown, and come away with your arguments intact.
This will require comprehension and honesty on your part though.

 

[willseeker]

With due respect to Silent Slammer, this is not a subject for this forum.
Let's talk guns. If you want to debate your political stand, there are other sites on the internet.
BTW, welcome to the forum. Seriously.
Now the rest of you who have been on this forum for awhile should know better. Your armchair political views bore me and take up space that would otherwise be used, appropriately, for firearm related issues.
Respectfully,
Will

 

[Just Jim]

You were the one making the claim that 48% of people in Oregon were on the dole. I'm calling you out - the burden of proof is on you to substantiate it. You seem pretty firm in the belief so it must have come from somewhere. My good faith best effort using documented sources came to 10%, so you only need to find another million people.

BTW, it's 'complete' and 'government'.

I got no problem with you calling me a liar because you can't add To coin a phrase your "willfull ignorance" (check the spelling and gramar on that too eh ) leads you to where you believe whatever the dems tell you. I hope you keep listening to them and believeing what they say

jj

Edited to add, even if it were proven to you with absolutely no doubt all you would do is change the subject. It's the game you guys choose to play when you lose. I ain't playing your game.

 

[Chee-to]

The state of Oregon is F'd up by the residents of Portland and surrounding Kalifornia suburbs, along with Eugene and the surrounding pot plantations.

The fact of the matter is that alot (not necessarally forum members) of new Oregonians have migrated from states like California, Mass, Louisiana, etc.
They either move here because they messed up their own state or cant find a job or just want to live off the government. Oregon is slowly becoming Northern Cal. and a state park for same. I dont believe either party, just pick the least objectional and hope they didnt lie too much.

As for the new Govenor I hope he does better this time but I seriously doubt it. Alot of his sheep werent here for his first two go arounds but they will see nothing will change just the name of the donkey in charge.

Multnoma county was a liberal hub long before the migration of "legal immigrants" started to show up, Oregon has been under total liberal rule since January 12, 1987, that's the last 23 years, two of the Govs are native born Oregonians, two are from out of state, none from Calif........Believe it or not, people coming to Oregon to find work ain't finding any.
Google - public data ( check the graph on unemployment in Oregon before and after the libs took over )

 

[rufus]

Your armchair political views bore me and take up space that would otherwise be used, appropriately, for firearm related issues.
Respectfully,
Will

Is someone forcing you to read every thread on this forum? This is an interesting subject to some of us.

I believe the only hope for the state of Oregon is to gift Multnomah County to the state of Washington. Oregon would be better off without it. Might have to pay them handsomely to take it, but it would be taxpayer money well spent. The folks that started the State of Jefferson movement had the right idea.

Will, I basically agree with you. Been trying to limit my posts here to gun related issues (sometimes it's not easy). For the non-gun related political nonsense I tend to spew, <broken link removed> is most appropriate.

 

[silentslammer]

will, thanks sorry if you disagree, but this topic of looney liberalism dictating to the rest of the 95% of the state is totally applicable to our gun rights. Surely you dont think Portland and Seattle have the best interest in preserving your gun rights.

 

[zeezee]

It seems like your whole argument hinges on that statement... and that statement isn't really true. Don't get me wrong, I can't stand Boxer, Feinstein, and the like, but there's plenty of legitimate reasons for it without resorting to blaming them for an economy that was tanking well before the Dems held the White House or Congress.

The dems held congress (both the house and the senate) for the last 2 years of the bush administration, that added to the two years this fool has been in office means that the libtarded democrats have had 4 years to do something positive. Well my libtarded friend, they haven't, nor do they have any intent on doing anything but tax and spend. Socialism is obama's goal, share the wealth, turn this country into a 3rd class nation by bowing to every tin hat dictator. Impeach him, even that *** clown bite-me could do better!

 

[gehrheart]

YouTube - Obama Bows to Saudi King

The President Of the United States Of America bowing to A king......


the thought alone makes me sick,

This video,


unbelievable........

 

[bugeye]

YouTube - Obama Bows to Saudi King

The President Of the United States Of America bowing to A king......


the thought alone makes me sick,

This video,


unbelievable........

Yeah and Bush settled for just holding hands and stopping any further investigations of the flow of Saudi money to terrorist groups 6 months before 9-11!