Who makes the best PCC?

[Longwalkhome]

I want a Pistol Caliber Carbine in 9mm and thought I would ask the crew here who they think makes the best one.

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[bellarum]

I went with a Foxtrot Mike FM-9 and love it. I mainly shoot it suppressed and it's just fun

 

[spookshack]

JP - GMR-15™ Rifle and Upper Assemblies

Pretty popular on the competition circuit. They're not cheap though.

 

[solv3nt]

JP - GMR-15™ Rifle and Upper Assemblies

I'm rolling with them for an SBR.

 

[RobMa]

The only way to fly.
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[ilikegunspdx]

I want a Pistol Caliber Carbine in 9mm and thought I would ask the crew here who they think makes the best one.

Imo depends on what your priorities are. Fe size, accuracy, smooth shooting. My recommendations based on owning quite a few of them:

Smooth shooting:
1a. Sig mpx or similar (expensive)
1b. Mp5 roller delayed (mke has been made since 1970s on hk tooling and costs only $1000)
1c. Mp5k (suggest mke @$1000)
2. cmmg radial delayed (various guard, banshee)
3. Stribog semi roller delayed

Accuracy:
1. Stribog (it really is unbelievably accurate in real world shooting, at least early ones with fantastic trigger, have not shot newer flat trigger ones)
2. Everything else

Size:
1. This one is tricky but best overall size to me hands down is Glock 17l, or 34, or 17 with B&T usw (cost is $355 + Glock + stamp)


1b. P320 with USW
2. Mp5k
3. Everything else that doesn't have a buffer
4. I would not bother with anything with a buffer. Too much size for no benefit in 9mm imo. Limits where you can store and how you can use (Fe in vehicle). In contrast Glock with USW you can carry in fleece jacket inside pocket or holster. Mp5 can go on sling pack. Both can be shot with stock folded.

I don't know enough about these to comment:

Cmmg dissent
Evo
Flux raider
Probably a whole lot of others like that $439 one UTas I think its called that I know very little about

If it were me buying right now based on everything I know I would go with either mke mp5 or mp5k clone, or Glock with USW. If accuracy was paramount and didn't care about other stuff I would go with early Stribog (non reciprocating, dual rod ideally). Others might have different opinions.

Here is a good review of mke gun. It's called AP5 or AP5p now (century is the importer now, no longer zenith).

 

[TTSX]

Build yourself a banshee clone with the CMMG RDB BCG and barrel combo. Get an aero XL upper to attach to the lower of your choice and go exactly as you would for any AR-15 build from there.

I built mine in .45ACP for about half the cost of a brand name banshee with the same brand name parts.

 

[drstrangelove]

Angstadt
HK

 

[spookshack]

@Longwalkhome you do realize how deep this rabbit hole is you are about to go down right?

 

[unionguy]

My experience:

Ruger PC, nice but heavy.
I really like my Beretta CX4, very light and is really handy. Some hate the trigger I think it's fine for the purpose of the firearm.
Stribog SP9A3 really, really like it...accuracy is phenomenal!!

Good luck!

 

[RobMa]

There is always the German SP5, it's still on the expensive side but you're getting German quality.

 

[spookshack]

My PCC was built by me for speed steel matches and that is all I use it for. I use Taccom PCC parts whenever I can. I have their upper, bolt, barrel and recoil system.
YMMV

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[Member 34319]

Good question. These days that's like asking who makes the best AR15.

I'd skip the names and state things like, blowback is the best. IE less crap to deal with F'ing up the function of the firearm. Not that others don't function 100%, they just have more parts that can fail. Blowbacks can run almost any ammo, can be tuned to run extremely soft, and are usually less expensive and more available. As much as the internet argues that there is less felt recoil with some form of delayed action, it's really hard to tell unless you have shot a ton of different PCCs. They all suppress nicely too.

There are literally tons of straight blowback options on the market now. Most will be extremely reliable. You can go crazy and get a very well made B&T which will be worth every penny, or a modest PSA AR pattern blowback that will set you back maybe $400. You can put an AR based PCC together too. There are inexpensive but good quality options like the Extar products. There are funky folding options like the new Smith and Wesson Keltec copy-cat. There is a version that accepts just about any pistol magazine in existence. The list goes on.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Define best and budget. Transferable MP5 might be the top one, but is probably out of most of our budgets.

There are lots of good ones.

Controversial opinion: My favorite semi auto is an MPA Arms defender. You are probably not going to see that one repeated too often. I looked at getting a B & T but I couldn't do it. I could not figure out what the heck was supposed to get better.

Non controversial opinion: Glock mags just work

 

[Wombat of Doom]

My PCC was built by me for speed steel matches and that is all I use it for. I use Taccom PCC parts whenever I can. I have their upper, bolt, barrel and recoil system.
YMMV

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Which recoil system? I have the Magnetic delay and the air cushioned one.

 

[spookshack]

The standard one. I have yet to try the the magnetic or cushioned systems yet.
Of the two, what do you prefer better?

 

[Wombat of Doom]

The standard one. I have yet to try the the magnetic or cushioned systems yet.
Of the two, what do you prefer better?

air cushioned. The Magnetic delayed blowback is fairly hard to charge. It is definitely a sharp pull to chamber a round.

 

[spookshack]

I was thinking about the air cushioned one if I was inclined to experiment and compare.
Not a priority at this point. Lol

 

[po18guy]

"Best"? Like adult diapers, it Depends. Henry's has a nice , classic (non-Rambo) 9mm carbine. Wood and metal. Blowback operated. Swapable mag well accepts Glock, Sig or Smith mags.

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[spookshack]

I'd pass on the Henry till they've been out awhile.