Poll: Which caliber for deer, elk, sheep, auodad, and moose? MK.II

[bbbass]

I would be more than confident hunting black tails in the deep brush out in Tahuya, or Elk out in one of the canyons behind the Manastash Ridge with that rig.
Dean

You come hunt elk on the breaks of the Minam, Wenaha, etc, and tell me you don't need more than 6x.

 

[bbbass]

That's fine if you want to go Ruger instead of Remington, but the scope is too powerful for woods hunting.
1.5x sees through the brush better at the shorter distances encountered there.


Dean

Don't need a scope for those westsider "sound" shots.

 

[orygun]

You come hunt elk on the breaks of the Minam, Wenaha, etc, and tell me you don't need more than 6x.

Looking at bulls somewhat hidden behind cows at 300ish yards, I want more than 9x!

 

[orygun]

1.5x sees through the brush better at the shorter distances encountered there.

I disagree with this, too. Especially with the minute difference between quoted magnifications. Hunting the Cascades I am well aware of what it's like to hunt in dense brush or timber. I can/do shoot with both eyes open at 3x.
The problem with high magnification is the limiting of field of view. Having a wide field of view is the highlight of using a lower power scope and allows for quicker target acquisition, but not all scopes are created equal. Some will be better than others.

 

[bbbass]

Looking at bulls somewhat hidden behind cows at 300ish yards, I want more than 9x!

Especially if you're spike hunting!!! And my eyes aint'so good anymores. Ha, making blank generalites about gun size, scope pwer, etc, rarely holds.

 

[orygun]

Especially if you're spike hunting!!!

That's exactly what I was doing. Didn't see a one. Just the heard bull and a bunch of raghorns.

 

[bbbass]

That's exactly what I was doing. Didn't see a one. Just the heard bull and a bunch of raghorns.

Yeah, if you wish hard enough, those ears can start hardening into horns at lower magnifications.

I wish there was a 2x-20x!!!!

 

[orygun]

I wish there was a 2x-20x!!!!

The way things are going we might be able to buy one in a few years.

 

[bbbass]

By then I might need a hovercraft to get out there.

 

[DeanMk]

Please people, I've done the research.
I grew up hunting in the dense brush of Tahuya.
1x is a bit weak, but 2-2.5x is just too tight, when you're trying to ID that "thing" in the brush in front of you.
I will expand my choice to 1.5x-1.75x.
If you choose not to believe me, that's your choice, but I stand by my recommendation.


Dean

 

[orygun]

1x is a bit weak, but 2-2.5x is just too tight, when you're trying to ID that "thing" in the brush in front of you.

Certainly hope I don't end up hunting around you...

 

[DeanMk]

I certainly hope I don't end up hunting around YOU!

 

[U8395279]

Luckily for me I do my research on what gun I want before I go into the store to buy it and am set (very) on what I want.

You have left out the most important information here in this this thread: What is your background and experience in both rifle shooting and hunting?

Have you done any rifle hunting? Either big game, or small game?

What rifles, if any, do you currently own? If you currently own one or more, it would be good to purchase a rifle that would compliment their abilities, instead of being redundant.

How much experience do you have shooting a rifle? If you are buying your very first rifle, then a rimfire rifle would probably be the best starter rifle for you to begin with. It would be inexpensive to shoot a lot, so that you could hone your marksmanship skills. And you could hunt small game with it, to gain hunting experience.

I would say that it is basically impossible for anyone to make any meaningful suggestion or recommendation to you, without knowing anything at all about you, or what guns you may already own.

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[Jamie6.5]

Please people, I've done the research.
I grew up hunting in the dense brush of Tahuya.
1x is a bit weak, but 2-2.5x is just too tight, when you're trying to ID that "thing" in the brush in front of you.
I will expand my choice to 1.5x-1.75x.
If you choose not to believe me, that's your choice, but I stand by my recommendation.


Dean

Many many moons ago, before I learned to shoot with both eyes open, I might have agreed with you.
But you're not the only one that's hunted in heavy brush.
And everyone that has knows what it's like to see nothing but a patch of hair or a bushy branch that fills your scope when it's adjusted to too high of a power.
The plum brush of S. Central Oregon is as thick as it gets, and with both eyes open, it's not a problem at 2x.
So 2x isn't too much when you know how to do it.
And I know that, 'cuz I've done it.

 

[FullMetalJerk]

.30-06 if you don't reload and are concerned about ammo availability. And .338 Lapua Magnum if you reload.

 

[jsparks747]

You have left out the most important information here in this this thread: What is your background and experience in both rifle shooting and hunting?

Have you done any rifle hunting? Either big game, or small game?

What rifles, if any, do you currently own? If you currently own one or more, it would be good to purchase a rifle that would compliment their abilities, instead of being redundant.

How much experience do you have shooting a rifle? If you are buying your very first rifle, then a rimfire rifle would probably be the best starter rifle for you to begin with. It would be inexpensive to shoot a lot, so that you could hone your marksmanship skills. And you could hunt small game with it, to gain hunting experience.

I would say that it is basically impossible for anyone to make any meaningful suggestion or recommendation to you, without knowing anything at all about you, or what guns you may already own.

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I have done a lot of shooting and hunting. 2 of my uncles are serious hunters and I have gone out with them hunting. I mainly bowhunt but do hunt small game on the ranch my aunt and uncle work on with a ranch supplied gun but am just getting into firearm hunting big game so I am new to the firearm side of things. I don't currently own a firearm (sold them off to start new with better choices). I have been shooting since I was little and have shot my dad's old Winchester model 70 .300 win mag when we visit the friend who has is now. I have also shot Ar-15s and Ar-10s and pretty much every caliber from .22 short up to .338 Lapua. I am mainly asking for advice on the caliber as I have already decided to purchase the Remington model 700 ADL.

 

[U8395279]

I have done a lot of shooting and hunting. 2 of my uncles are serious hunters and I have gone out with them hunting. I mainly bowhunt but do hunt small game on the ranch my aunt and uncle work on with a ranch supplied gun but am just getting into firearm hunting big game so I am new to the firearm side of things. I don't currently own a firearm (sold them off to start new with better choices). I have been shooting since I was little and have shot my dad's old Winchester model 70 .300 win mag when we visit the friend who has is now. I have also shot Ar-15s and Ar-10s and pretty much every caliber from .22 short up to .338 Lapua. I am mainly asking for advice on the caliber as I have already decided to purchase the Remington model 700 ADL.

Well, the Remington Model 700 ADL has been discontinued for new sales for quite some time now. So to buy one, you would need to purchase a used rifle.

I am confident that no factory Remington rifle has ever been chambered in 338 Lapua. And the ADL certainly has never been made available in 6.5mm Creedmoor. You would tus have to have a gunsmith rebarrel a used gun to shoot 6.5mm Creedmoor, in order to get that caliber in an ADL.
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[Jamie6.5]

I am confident that no factory Remington rifle has ever been chambered in 338 Lapua.

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[tac]

Elk and big bears at 600 yds eliminates all but the flattest and hardest hitting.

At the risk of sounding like a liberal [shibber], why would you want to shoot a bear at 600 yards?

tac