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We need to help our bother in California

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by fredball, Sep 20, 2013.

  1. fredball

    fredball Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    CONTACT GOVERNOR BROWN TODAY!!
    This year the California Legislature passed the most restrictive collection of anti-gun laws in decades
    DESIGNED TO END GUN OWNERSHIP IN CALIFORNIA!!
    Our last chance to stop these laws before having to spend millions to fight them in court for years is for Governor Brown to veto them. Governor Brown needs to be reminded that he has millions of constituents that are law-abiding gun owners, sportsmen and Second Amendment supporters and that Californians do not support outrageous anti-gun and anti-hunting legislation, like those in New York, New Jersey, Maryland and Connecticut or worse.
    If we do not stop these bills NOW our children will never know the fundamental rights of self defense, hunting, self reliance and private ownership of firearms nor the freedoms this Country was founded on.
    Below are the anti-gun/anti-hunting bills you need to call, fax AND e-mail and urge Governor Brown to VETO.

    Governor Brown can be reached at:
    Phone: (916) 445-2841
    Fax: (916) 558-3160
    Email web form: Managed Dedicated Server Hosting & Managed VPS Hosting by LiquidWeb.calguns.net/governor

    SB374 - Bans the future sale or transfer of and classifies ALL semi-automatic firearms with a detachable magazine or holding more than ten rounds of ammunition as "assault weapons." Continued legal possession requires that you REGISTER and pay a FEE (TAX) on ALL your semi-autos newly classified as “assault weapons.”

    AB711 - Makes California the first state to prohibit the use of all lead ammunition for hunting.

    AB48 - Bans the sale of parts and repair kits capable of creating or converting a magazine to a capacity to hold greater than ten rounds.

    AB169 - Limits the sale/transfer of all lawfully firearms that were never, or are no longer, on the California roster of approved handguns to two a year and redefines the technical provisions of single shot pistols.

    AB231 - Expands the laws relating to firearms storage.

    SB299 - Makes it a crime if a person does not report a lost/stolen firearm within 7 days.

    SB475 - Would effectively ban the gun shows at the Cow Palace by requiring the approval of San Francisco and San Mateo Counties

    AB180 - Repeals state firearms preemption by allowing the City of Oakland to enact gun ordinances that are more restrictive than state laws concerning the registration or licensing of firearms.

    SB567 - Redefines shotguns to include any long gun with a rifled bore or a smooth bore, regardless of whether it is designed to be fired from the shoulder and bans the sale of shotguns with the revised definitions that have a revolving cylinder, and requires registration of these currently owned shotguns.

    SB683 - Expands California’s Handgun Safety Certificate requirement to apply to all firearms, and prohibits anyone from purchasing or transferring any firearm without a firearm safety certificate.

    SB755 - Expands the list of persons prohibited from owning a firearm, including persons who have operated cars and boats while they are impaired commonly referred to as DUI.

    Permission to use freely is given, to download a printable version go to http://www.calguns.net/vetoflyer.doc


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  2. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Las Californias has done this to itself. I'm sorry, but people that keep folks like Feinstein in power for over 30 years obviously want the infringement. Personally, I'm more into fighting for those that will actually fight for themselves, not those that want their Socialist State government to do it all for them. They do in fact reap what they sew.
     
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  3. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    I vote to build a TALL fence around the border of Cali & not let anyone in or out. It's what they deserve for their stupidity!!!!
     
  4. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    I hope it rains here forever.. that's the only thing that keeps the freaktards down there.
     
  5. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    Haha, only prevent people from leaving, I don't mind if the libtards move to Cali as long as they don't move North to Oregon!
     
  6. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely. Let the sheep go home to their Mecca. We will also need to eventually force the ones swarming Medford back, so we need one-way doors in that wall.

    solv3nt, after all we've been through, you change your avatar just like that? As if it meant nothing to you all this time? Man, this hurts.
     
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  7. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    I didn't want to be mistaken as a Trekkie :paranoid:
     
  8. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Who are you referring to? You say this like you're talking to all those gun owners who have been fighting this since the beginning. The call is to help the oppressed minority down there who can't do it alone. "Y'all did this to yourselves," just doesn't apply here. You'd be talking to those who have been pro-gun-control, and they're not asking for your help, nor regretting their decisions. If you think you're talking to the fighting minority down there, then you're just plain wrong- they can only do what they can do. Do you think the fighting minority has been voting for Feinstein?

    The above is either a cop-out sentiment you're using to morally liberate yourself from having to help, or nothing more than self-indulgent condescension.
     
  9. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    How's this for improvisation?

    Diane Feinstein dies of a massive heart attack at the exact same moment as Wayne LaPierre. They get to the Pearly Gates and St. Peter says to them, "For your service to your respective people that you represented on Earth, I will give you each one wish for Humanity."
    Then, to Feinstein, he says "You may go first." Feinstein gives it serious thought and says, "Well, I spent my life ridding California of the horrors of firearms and individual rights, making it the wonderful place it is today. To preserve it, I want a wall surrounding California to be built to the sky so that no one may enter and no one may leave."

    Granting Feinstein's wish, St. Peter turns to LaPierre, who without hesitation replies "Fill it with water."
     
  10. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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    Good one U K.
     
  11. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Good try. The decent people that are in the minority left California a LONG time ago. There will always be the majority there keeping the Feinstein's in power. That is why we have the freedom to move from state to state. If one state's policies don't fit your belief's or standard's, you can move to, say, Texas.

    With all that is being done to remove rights of people in free states, taking our eyes off of that ball to "help" a lost cause like California is futile. You can go ahead and throw New York into that heap of trash as well. Of course there are good people in both states that aren't Communist. They are in occupied territory, like it or not.
     
  12. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    Their voting block/hordes isn't going to change until they hit bottom/go bankrupt.. that'll probably be about five years, tops. bring the pain
     
  13. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Nope.
     
  14. solv3nt

    solv3nt Portland Well-Known Member

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    BB,
    You're an interesting anomaly... You think that anybody that open carries has mental problems, but you don't view living in Cali. the same?
     
  15. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Then enjoy your futile fight. I'll be here, not wasting time on a lost cause.

    But hey, don't think for one second that I'm not for the plight of the California Gun Owner(nearly as rare as the Condor), I am. Unfortunately, I have lived a real life and can only view things realistically, not with hopes and dreams that will never be realized. It's like trying to save North Korans from Communism. A futile attempt while those that can still be saved slip into situations like the one in Colorado that corrected itself.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    I truly enjoyed writing that letter.
    I believe the Governors tan will be a bit crispier now. Hope others voice their opinion as well.
    With those laws Kalifornicatia cannot even be considered part of the United States any longer.
    Firearms laws are less restrictive in Communist China.
    Please take the time to write. It will do wonders for your peace of mind to vent on the New Beijing's Governor. Then consider the border to Kalifornicatia the new Berlin Wall.
     
  17. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Coming to Multnomah County very soon I betcha.
     
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  18. unklekippy

    unklekippy In The Mountains Near Sprague River Well-Known Member

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    Y'know, I am going to write the letter. It will only take a few minutes and costs neither myself or the defense of my own state a dime.

    But let me ask this and I am asking it seriously. How many American's would have to write a Feinstein, Boxer or Brown to get them to see the light? Does anyone here think that if literally EVERY American told them they were wrong that they would change their tune? Why does anyone think that politicians do ANYTHING based on what the American people want or based on what is best for America? Is that why they all pass laws and other BS that helps a handful of people while the other 299,995,000 of us pay for it?

    It's a sham, fella's. Our parents bit the bait. We should all know better.
     
  19. BroncoFan

    BroncoFan Eastern Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I hate to sound defeatist but California is a lost cause and guns rights are only one symptom of a moral and social decline that will only get worse. I gave money to the Colorado recall effort, wrote and called our local legislators in Oregon's fight. I say let the great social, liberal experiment that is the charlie fox of California continue on - it is giving us tangible, empirical evidence of what a failure the progressive agenda is. I only wish the O supporters on this site and in all of the Pacific Northwest would put their money where their mouth is and move on down to paradise if it is so flipping great.
     
  20. Father of four

    Father of four Portland, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Nope. We'd have a better chance at persuading Ben Beckerich that the majority of the open carriers are on our side. But I don't think that will happen anytime soon. Maybe if all the open carriers would PM him he might change his mind? :poke: