Transfers with no FFL

[EPS]

Most LE has determined these laws unenforceable.

Not all States have the same laws

 

[EPS]

Most LE has determined these laws unenforceable.

Yep how are they going to inforce a high cap mag ban they don't have #
Numbers

 

[Mecanik]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure Washington also requires that all private sales be done through an FFL.

Yes that is true but like I said it's largely ignored (between anyone who knows each other.) Strangers would not be ignored. It's a state law so the BATF has no interest in getting involved.

 

[Lightborne]

Yes that is true but like I said it's largely ignored (between anyone who knows each other.) Strangers would not be ignored. It's a state law so the BATF has no interest in getting involved.

It's un-enforceable, plain and simple.

 

[EPS]

My friend tried to have a gun transfer to his dad SKS his dad lives in Hawaii the SHERIFF said give the gun to your dad I don't have time for this B.S. LOL he said but he is taking it back to Hawaii . sheriff said a SKS IS NOT ILLIGAL IN HAWAII .BUT A AR15 IS MMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMM

 

[Mecanik]

It's un-enforceable, plain and simple.

That too, it would also require an undercover state police officer to attempt to purchase a firearm and the state has not seen any desire to do any of that. It's almost impossible to detect that a firearm was purchased without a FFL after the fact as the paper trail for the vast majority of firearms doesn't exist. They would have to catch you in the act. This is just a political cluster fk that will eventually lead to a legal battle at the supreme court level.

 

[Member 5605]

That too, it would also require an undercover state police officer to attempt to purchase a firearm and the state has not seen any desire to do any of that. It's almost impossible to detect that a firearm was purchased without a FFL after the fact as the paper trail for the vast majority of firearms doesn't exist. They would have to catch you in the act. This is just a political cluster fk that will eventually lead to a legal battle at the supreme court level.

Truth there. Lots of people cowering and submitting to 'the man' they said they would always resist..

 

[Mecanik]

The average street democrat didn't care much for gun control but they sat back and voted these idiots into office because their union told them too or they have family that "always voted democrat" and out of tradition or ignorance they continue down that road of stupidity. This is what happens when you sit back and do nothing. Thomas Jefferson warned of these times when cities got so big they could dominate the voting booths. Brainwashed liberal idiots sucking the life out of the government from EBT cards to free medical. Sad times we are in today.

 

[Goosebrown]

My friend tried to have a gun transfer to his dad SKS his dad lives in Hawaii the SHERIFF said give the gun to your dad I don't have time for this B.S. LOL he said but he is taking it back to Hawaii . sheriff said a SKS IS NOT ILLIGAL IN HAWAII .BUT A AR15 IS MMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMM

Commies. Probably like black pajamas too

 

[xtratoy]

Over over 25 years ago I had bought a pistol and gave it to my sister as a gift. 5 years later It was stolen out of her car. I didn't have the serial number to the gun to fill out the police report so I went down to the police station and they gave me the serial number of the gun I had bought several years earlier. If that isn't a registration I don't know what is.

 

[EPS]

Over over 25 years ago I had bought a pistol and gave it to my sister as a gift. It was stolen out of her car. I didn't have the serial number to the gun to fill out the police report so I went down to the police station and they gave me the serial number of the gun I had bought several years earlier If that isn't a registration I don't know what is.

I had a gun stolen and they were able to track it back to the person who bought it I was not the original buyer but I got it back after I told them I bought it from the original buyer . This was years ago before 594

 

[Mecanik]

Over over 25 years ago I had bought a pistol and gave it to my sister as a gift. 5 years later It was stolen out of her car. I didn't have the serial number to the gun to fill out the police report so I went down to the police station and they gave me the serial number of the gun I had bought several years earlier. If that isn't a registration I don't know what is.

According to "FOPA 1986" is it illegal for any state or the federal government to retain a "registration" database of firearms transactions past 24 hours and must be destroyed after the background check is made. That being said several states openly defy that federal act. This is the state of our country at this time. Democrats trampling freedom and ignoring the laws and doing what they please regardless. Our country is in a state of decomposition from liberal politics and democrats continuously attempting to destroy freedom. Anyone who has voted democrat since 94 when the Brady bill went through in my opinion is a traitor to the flag of freedom and no better than elephant dung.

 

[Argonaut]

I lived in California for a long time. All guns went through a FFL. Particularly when selling to a stranger, I don't think it is a bad thing. My buddy (a DA in Utah) used to have a FFL and sold some guns for profit when he was in college. One day 15 years later he got a call at his (county) office. It seems one had been used for a murder somewhere in the east. His records were inspected and he was good......but made him think. There is a reason someone doesn't want to FFL a purchase and the 20-40.00 charge isn't good enough. If they want to avoid the scrutiny let them buy a pre 1898 gun or a black powder. Too many bad people that want guns to take the risk. The FFL's generally don't make enough on a transfer to cover the hassle involved but most still do it as a service to there customers. I have passed on buying things like an inexpensive Mauser receiver because the cost of transferring it madi the deal under water, not a big deal. I have over 100 guns, the transfer is a non issue. I might exempt known a family member like most states do.........but the risk of selling a gun to some nice guy involved with a war with his wife (and restraining order) him using it against her is too great.

 

[billdeserthills]

You can always move to a free state like Arizona,
I bought a used gun yesterday in the parking lot at Wal-mart & it was sweeet

 

[Argonaut]

You can always move to a free state like Arizona,
I bought a used gun yesterday in the parking lot at Wal-mart & it was sweeet

As long as the gun wasn't stolen and you can legally own it.......all is good. If the gun turns out to have been stolen, you are risking your cash, if the guy you are selling to, turns out to be prohibited you risk jail and fines......even in an otherwise legal transaction.

 

[DB is Here]

As long as the gun wasn't stolen and you can legally own it.......all is good.

Even before I594 in WA I'd only buy or sell to friends that I knew very well. If I didn't know you...no sale/purchase.

 

[Argonaut]

As long as the gun wasn't stolen and you can legally own it.......all is good. If the gun turns out to have been stolen, you are risking your cash, if the guy you are selling to, turns out to be prohibited you risk jail and fines......even in an otherwise legal transaction.

I had a busisness partner decades ago (for a very brief time) in Santa Maria California. These guys would show up at the shop with a trunk or pickup full of tools, occasionally guns and equipment for sale cheep. As time went by, I learned that the guys were thieves preying on people in the Bakersfield, Fresno areas and selling like a door to door salesman on the coast. It was a really bad situation. I put a call into the Sheriff and got out of the area. Later bought out the partner, he used the cash to bail out of jail and for legal costs. It had gone on for a long time and my ex partner got a year after he was proven to be complacent in the scheme. I have no tolerance for a thief.

 

[billdeserthills]

As long as the gun wasn't stolen and you can legally own it.......all is good. If the gun turns out to have been stolen, you are risking your cash, if the guy you are selling to, turns out to be prohibited you risk jail and fines......even in an otherwise legal transaction.

It's ok, I have more money

 

[ma96782]

You can always move to a free state like Arizona,
I bought a used gun yesterday in the parking lot at Wal-mart & it was sweeet

I can remember a time when as a new WA resident.....I did that in WA. When I told my friend back in Hawaii of my deal (w/o paperwork). My friend said.....

"That's FREEDOM."

BTW....that friend has moved back to AZ. After he retired from HI.

Aloha, Mark

 

[DuneHopper]

You can go do that in a parking lot in Oregon too, meet .....drive five blocks to the FFL stand for an hour waiting for a BGC ... good times UGGGGGGG !