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just had another member ask for me to do a bill of sale instead of going to an FFL.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was illegal.
just had another member ask for me to do a bill of sale instead of going to an FFL.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was illegal.
Good call, not worth it.I was going to. I may think it's dumb but the law is the law. And I've got responsibilities. Plus this guys photo looked like a young kid holding up bottles. Not a good first impression.
I'm not sure how to tell an admin. The kid stopped responding once I told him I'm not breaking the law. I could but him on blast here. Didn't know if that was appropriate.You probably should tell an admin who it was. It doesn't do our reputation as a community any good.
Holy crap just pulled up his profile. He joined today and has entered into 53 conversation. He's fishing.No secrets.
The Moderators need to know all the details to get him straight,
or get him gone.
There's a big anti2a "push" on, and last few days lots of "termites" have begun to emerge from the woodwork to try to troll gun forums, trying to make gun forums, and gun owners look bad. They're trying to get members to break laws (or say they did), to follow up false stories with violent/unhinged replies, to respond to fake surveys and phone #'s. They often try to identify names, addresses, personal info.
It's well funded, highly organized and carefully planned. These guys think the timing is right.
Now, more than ever, lets be excellent to each other, cool our jets, read our posts several times before we hit "enter"....
....and try our best to trust, but always verify.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that was illegal.
Holy crap just pulled up his profile. He joined today and has entered into 53 conversation. He's fishing.
I was just having this conversation with a younger guy I work with about the law being stupid but me still thinking it should be followed. Whats funny is a few weeks ago I had been explaining to him that the NICS system is not a registry and the local Oregon and/or federal govt. doesn't keep track of who owns what guns other then a paper filing of who passed the background check and for what gun....which lead him to ask "isn't that a registry?" I continued to explain that the paperwork was not filed in a manner that kept track of what citizen had what guns in a quickly accessible list format that could result in quickly printable lists of how many guns each person had in the event of a tyrannical seizure.
Anyway, where I am going with this is considering that what I said above was true(PLEASE correct me and further explain if I am wrong) hypothetically if a person buys a gun from another person without the FFL and that gun gets used in a justified/legal self defense shooting is there anyway for the courts and police to figure out that the gun was illegally transferred to the more recent owner who used it.
My understanding is that the only way a gun can be illegally possessed in the state of OR as well as WA, ID is if the possessor is prohibited or the gun would have to be reported stolen. Unless of course the owner incriminated themselves by telling the details of purchase to an LEO.
BTW, I am certainly not advocating breaking any laws here! I'm just being curious about how the system works.
AMT, I suppose you are probably right. I Don't think its a very tinfoily hat statement either.
3. If ever you feel iffy about a sale don't do it.