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Since when are the anti's worried about litigation? Especially on the tax payers dime....Wouldn't get past a filibuster.
Probably wouldn't survive a USSC challenge.
Much of the above feels like politics and not legit 2A discussion. FWIW.
....exactly. Look at the mess OR's in. Almost like the authors of the bill full well realized what turmoil and confusion it would cause. If it gets tied up in court without a temporary injunction, the effect is probably no firearm transfers for months....and they're good with that. Litigation is nothing more than a delay of game to these folks.Since when are the anti's worried about litigation? Especially on the tax payers dime....
They only stopped new firearms transfers from FFL's the rest will still go on especially the black market. If someone is intent on creating another mas shooting they are not going to give a rats arse about this law. They are already breaking the law by killing. They will just steal a firearm and mags that are legally owned or go out of state for mags if they are hard pressed. This law isnt to reduce shootings or any of what they claim it is for, it is simply another one of those thousand cuts to the second amendment.Some call it a 'stupid' law.....I'm realizing it was actually quite clever if your goal was to stop firearm transfers, even temporarily.
Minor nit, IIRC in OR you not supposed to transfer firearms anywhere other than an FFL. But, basically we agree. Passing more and more and more laws that only the law abiding will follow, does absolutely nothing to prevent or reduce violent crime. Even then, until criminals FEAR capture and punishment, they could care less. Having a DA that doesn't bother to prosecute doesn't help. And this crap got voted in....which leaves me flummoxed.They only stopped new firearms transfers from FFL's the rest will still go on especially the black market. If someone is intent on creating another mas shooting they are not going to give a rats arse about this law. They are already breaking the law by killing. They will just steal a firearm and mags that are legally owned or go out of state for mags if they are hard pressed. This law isnt to reduce shootings or any of what they claim it is for, it is simply another one of those thousand cuts to the second amendment.
Red text: main words "supposed to" Many non criminal type still dont...........Minor nit, IIRC in OR you not supposed to transfer firearms anywhere other than an FFL. But, basically we agree. Passing more and more and more laws that only the law abiding will follow, does absolutely nothing to prevent or reduce violent crime. Even then, until criminals FEAR capture and punishment, they could care less. Having a DA that doesn't bother to prosecute doesn't help. And this crap got voted in....which leaves me flummoxed.
And they are not supposed to violate our Constitutionally protected rights.... you not supposed to transfer firearms anywhere other than an FFL. ...
up their "backdoor"!!!!This is assuming that the information is valid....
Absolutely. Easy to just say "bring on the courts", when it's not your money. Letting this pass after Bruen is simply spitting in Oregonian's eyes at the massive waste of money.....exactly. Look at the mess OR's in. Almost like the authors of the bill full well realized what turmoil and confusion it would cause. If it gets tied up in court without a temporary injunction, the effect is probably no firearm transfers for months....and they're good with that. Litigation is nothing more than a delay of game to these folks.
Some call it a 'stupid' law.....I'm realizing it was actually quite clever if your goal was to stop firearm transfers, even temporarily.
Murder by any means is against the law.They are already breaking the law by killing.
Congratulations. You are now the criminal Oregon always wanted you to be. I am not saying you are wrong; I'm saying every DA and judge will gladly enforce the penalties to the maximum allowed.They only stopped new firearms transfers from FFL's the rest will still go on especially the black market. If someone is intent on creating another mas shooting they are not going to give a rats arse about this law. They are already breaking the law by killing. They will just steal a firearm and mags that are legally owned or go out of state for mags if they are hard pressed. This law isnt to reduce shootings or any of what they claim it is for, it is simply another one of those thousand cuts to the second amendment.