Other State The 17 year old charged with two murder counts

[Ownerus]

I find it disturbing that the BLM/Antifa/DefundPolice crowd uses an image such as the above to caricature their enemy.
Does anyone else notice the glaring similarity of this image as to what the Nazis used to caricature the Jews in the lead-up to WWII?

That's exactly what I saw. Not that anyone should be surprised. Nazis and communists are all cut from the same cloth.

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

 

[bbbass]

Point is, even rifle rounds don't always do what we all want them to! When in Doubt, a 155 Mike Mike is the only sure bet!

When can we start???

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

For self defense m193 or m855? Neither for me. 5.56 64 grain soft point.

 

[Stomper]

It is not the crime that is of concern, but rather the seriousness of the allegation
—Rush Limbaugh

Rush was actually quoting that POS Senator, Tom Daschel (D-SD)


I remember that broadcast period....

 

[Stomper]

For self defense m193 or m855? Neither for me. 5.56 64 grain soft point.

Believe me, their biceps won't know the difference.

 

[Diamondback]

My point earlier was that the kid didn't bring the rifle across a state line... if it was a loaner under adult supervision, that shuts down the MInor In Possession charge.

Shipwereckedcrew (a former Federal prosecutor) and streiff both have some really good analysis on this over at RedState.

 

[BillyJean]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixldc

He loves those USA Crocks! Unsure if this video is from before he dropped out of high school or not. What a patriot.

 

[DunRanull]

Hello,

I am just catching up now. Much later than you. Don't feel lonely. LOL

Somewhere on this forum, beats me now (!), I wrote some things more or less questions but I do not know if anyone answered me or not there. Plus I read some more. I had trouble following some videos too.

Then more links/posts/etc. came up. I am behind in all of this.

I do not think that he should have gone there. In my other posts/questions I asked a bunch of things.

Did he tell his parents where he was going and what he was going to do?

Did he sneak off and drive himself there or did someone take him there even if it was NOT that long of a drive even though it was in another state?

What actual group - the name of IT invited him to go there? HOW did he know these people? What did he know about them from the gitgo?

The very last thing that I finally read 'late' (NOT here.) and I am STILL reading THIS specific thread now as I type to you NOW on this very page... was that someone in WI gave him the rifle to use for protection in the STATE OF WI. I do not know how accurate the WI news was or is in that comment.

I do NOT know the name of the person who lent K that rifle or the AGE of that person.

As I said... I am still reading this thread.

I just do NOT think that he should have gone there in the middle of these rioting and arsonists type of people even if his INTENTIONS were good.

I asked if his family or a friend owned the property that he was protecting too. Was it a stranger and did the owner ASK him or did this 'group' that he may or may not have known well ask him to protect it?

It LOOKS like his other GROUP members LEFT him alone and fled or scattered the scene and they did not group together when the s hit the fan - before or after but I can't be sure there. So the ones who asked him to GO there left him high and dry. I still have to read another long link posted by another member here too.

I DO think that he acted in SELF DEFENSE from what I can tell with the BIT of information that I have read/seen ONLINE but not from other news sources.

Call me old fashioned but I was always told or TAUGHT to not to do STUPID THINGS with or AROUND stupid people (Meaning the rioters - criminals.) even if your INTENTIONS ARE OR WERE GOOD and YOU are the GOOD GUY.

Use your common sense and the brains that the good Lord gave you.

I do not think of this as a military type of situation. I mentioned that in the posts that I can't FIND now of mine. Yes, many YOUNG men and women join up - volunteer now as they did in the past even when there was a draft. My late husband was one of them when he was going to school and working at the same time in late 1965.

I do NOT think that he thought this out or that HE or his 'group' had any REAL, SECURE OR SAFE PLAN especially BEING AROUND those criminal thugs.

Plus there was a curfew but even if he was ASKED BY THE OWNER OF THE ONE PROPERTY TO GUARD IT... why were there not MORE PEOPLE there including the OWNER (Was he there or not?) to form a LINE OF DEFENSE like the Korean roof top Americans like they had in LA?

Yes, the POLICE DID KNOW that he and other people were THERE too. That was all over many videos that came out later on.

I can't find my two posts about those questions and more. Sorry.

I do BELIEVE that he acted in self defense from what I can tell.

The POLICE knew that he and other people were there.

He did put out a fire.

I think that his intentions were good but NOT thought out well and the GROUP that invited him to go there did NOT have good planning with those criminal crazy rioters.

Plus whether he broke a curfew or not depending on his protection deal that the POLICE knew about - he had the right to defend himself.

Plus whether he was lent a gun (Or if that is not true according to the WI news?) or if he took a gun to WI from IL - he still had/has a right to self defense.

He may get into trouble with a lent gun or not or the owner of the gun may - I am NOT sure. IL and WI have different gun laws as we all know plus the 'hunting' or carrying a rifle which is legal in WI.

The state of IL is a female dog when it comes to their gun laws and FOID.

ADDED more.

Take care.

Blessings to you and your wife.

Sincerely,

Cate
PS: More armed people will come to the rescue if you want to call it that since the POLITICIANS ARE IN DERELICTION OF DUTY in many states/cities/rural areas. They need to be thrown out. Stand down orders do NOT work. NO mob or individual has the RIGHT TO RUIN and destroy a person's home, business, etc. or ruin and destroy/burn down public and private property. NO one has the right to MURDER OR WOUND another person. Self defense is another matter.

IT is like the crazy left and the crazy right will CLASH and there will be more riots or a civil war. I do THINK that we are IN a civil war now. The media and the FAR LEFT want it to GET WORSE and some on the right salivate for it too. NO one wants to work TOGETHER and stop the craziness with sanity or a peaceful solution. YOU can't talk to the FAR LEFT commies or socialists who want to DESTROY THE US OF A. They need the NG and peace officers to use fire hoses and more. COME DOWN HARD ON THE VIOLENT ONES. LEAVE THE PEACEFUL PEOPLE ALONE.

COME DOWN HARD AND SHOOT TO STOP THE VIOLENT MOB AND MURDERERS - THE POLICE AND NG NEED TO DO THIS NOW IF NOTHING ELSE WORKS. USE THOSE RUBBER BULLETS OR WHATEVER THEY CALL THEM AND/OR USE CLUBS TO STOP THEM IF HOSES AND TAZERS DO NOT WORK ON THE CRIMINAL MURDERERS AND THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL ALL OF US INCLUDING PEACE OFFICERS. STOP IT ALL.

WARN THE PEACEFUL PEOPLE, IF THERE ARE ANY OUT THERE, THAT THEY BETTER MOVE AND CLEAR OUT AND LEAVE THE CRAZIES THERE OR THEY WILL GET HURT. IF THEY ARE TOO STUPID OR STUBBORN TO MOVE AWAY FROM THE ARSONISTS AND THUGS... IT IS THEIR OWN CHOICE. GOD GAVE US FREE WILL.

"Fort Sumter" has been fired upon, the dogs of war let slip their chains.. Whether or not we want it, the civil war is upon us. God help us all...

 

[bbbass]

if it was a loaner under adult supervision,

Not trying to be argumentative, but I didn't see any adult supervision. Is there info on what adults were there... and doesn't it have to be constant oversight to be considered adult supervision?

 

[Stomper]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixldc

He loves those USA Crocks! Unsure if this video is from before he dropped out of high school or not. What a patriot.

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!!

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!!

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!!

FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD!!

 

[Cavedweller]

Not trying to be argumentative, but I didn't see any adult supervision. Is there info on what adults were there... and doesn't it have to be constant oversight to be considered adult supervision?

He was with a group of miltiamen. In some videos it appears there were about a dozen of them. At some point they became separated.


From NY Times:

"About 15 minutes before the first shooting, police officers drive past Mr. Rittenhouse, and the other armed civilians who claim to be protecting the dealership, and offer water out of appreciation.

Mr. Rittenhouse walks up to a police vehicle carrying his rifle and talks with the officers.

He eventually leaves the dealership and is barred by the police from returning. Six minutes later footage shows Mr. Rittenhouse being chased by an unknown group of people into the parking lot of another dealership several blocks away."

 

[Legion489]

Yes, we are in a civil war. The US has been in one since the 1960's (for those of you old enough to remember back that far). Remember the old radicals sitting in the Dean's office demanding change? Remember any in the last 30 years? Me neither. Know why? The commies from back then, are the commies sitting in the dean's office NOW! Look at what passes for politicos now. They swear an out to uphold the Constitution/Bill of Rights, yet many of them openly state they have never read it and/or hate it and want it banned.

Ask any cop if they have read the Constitution, and 98% have no clngue what you are saying or else "Oh, you are one of THOSE! OUT OF THE CAR SCUM!" Since when has supporting the Supreme Law of the Land been "one of THOSE!"

Look at Lorie Jackboot, she wants armed guards protecting her and her area, but doesn't allow anyone to protect anyone/anywhere else, ESPECIALLY themselves. Look at the Generals that are openly trashing the POTUS, the papers and commie front evening propaganda (I can not in good conscience call them "news") shows like See BS, MS13-NBC, CNN, etc.

Just look around and SEE what you are viewi

 

[awshoot]

https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/iixldc

He loves those USA Crocks! Unsure if this video is from before he dropped out of high school or not. What a patriot.

Which one is supposed to be Kyle? Even assuming someone there is Kyle, the worst thing I saw was some guy grab the really short girl when she tries to fight the tall girl and try to pull her away, which doesn't seem all that bad at all.

 

[SonicBlue03]

James Woods tweeted this out. I'm still laughing.

 

[sobo]

Which one is supposed to be Kyle? Even assuming someone there is Kyle, the worst thing I saw was some guy grab the really short girl when she tries to fight the tall girl and try to pull her away, which doesn't seem all that bad at all.

Here, I'll help...
It's apparently a feeble attempt to conflate a parking lot cat-fight with the sexual predation of minors, domestic violence, and intoxication while brandishing a firearm.

 

[Ura-Ki]

Here, I'll help...
It's apparently a feeble attempt to conflate a parking lot cat-fight with the sexual predation of minors, domestic violence, and intoxication while brandishing a firearm.

I Didn see Sh!t!

Looks like a couple teenage kids havin a bit of a playground spat, nothing more, and nobody can actually say if Kyle is part of that or even there!

 

[awshoot]

I Didn see Sh!t!

Looks like a couple teenage kids havin a bit of a playground spat, nothing more, and nobody can actually say if Kyle is part of that or even there!

Yeah -- none of them even look like Kyle.

 

[SonicBlue03]

Here, I'll help...
It's apparently a feeble attempt to conflate a parking lot cat-fight with the sexual predation of minors, domestic violence, and intoxication while brandishing a firearm.

I'm noticing when people are commenting on Andy Ngo's twitter feed about Antifa being the group that's pro-pederasts that they get very defensive. Apparently the truth stings, and the idea that their narrative will be cancelled as their proclivities for kidf**king might get more attention scares the heck out of them.
That's why it's time to bring back Pedobear in Antifa garb.

 

[sobo]

I Didn see Sh!t!

Looks like a couple teenage kids havin a bit of a playground spat, nothing more, and nobody can actually say if Kyle is part of that or even there!

Yeah -- none of them even look like Kyle.

It's possible, and I stress "possible", that the male in the dark blue sweatshirt and glasses in the video that Billy Jean posted *could be* Kyle Rittenhouse. That possibility notwithstanding, the point I am attempting to get across in my post above is that Billy Jean seems to be convinced that the video shows Rittenhouse punching a girl from behind, and he thereby seeks to minimize Rittenhouse's actions from several nights ago. In effect, seeking to tarnish the image of which many of us on this board view Rittenhouse.

I take umbrage with this diminution of Rittenhouse by Billy Jean, and point out that whatever the optics of this parking lot cat-fight that may or may not involve Rittenhouse may be, those optics pale in comparison to the felonious crimes of which Rittenhouse's attackers have been convicted. That is, specifically, sexual predation of minors (Rosebaum), domestic violence and battery (Huber), and intoxication with a firearm multiplier (Grosskreutz).

Does my original comment make more sense now?