SWORD - Concealed Firearm Scanner

[Flopsweat]

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Two weeks, two weeks! Walalala argle bargle. Huuuuuum. Get ready for a surprise!

 

[L84Cabo]

Sounds like a potential 4th amendment violation. I have a feeling this will get challenged very early on. And they do need to consider if it's used to detect guns or knives, it could be used to detect drug paraphernalia, and perhaps other things the lefties don't want found on their person. This is dangerous tech no matter what your political leaning.

^^^ That was my thinking too. Can a cop legally scan you...or a group of people...without either probable cause or a warrant? Is an electronic scan equivalent to a physical search.

 

[OldBroad44]

The pen is mightier than the sword, man!

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Tell me about this?

 

[Boboclown]

^^^ That was my thinking too. Can a cop legally scan you...or a group of people...without either probable cause or a warrant? Is an electronic scan equivalent to a physical search.

They can pat you down if they have a reasonable suspicion that you are doing something illegal. So they would probably try for that precedent, which scares me.

What is worse is that it can get into worse hands.

 

[WAW44]

Interesting. This is not X-ray or anything of the sort. Nobody, not even the most hard core lefties, would unleash radiation generating devices into the hands of the great unwashed masses. This is SONAR which also means it has low penetrating power and basically looks for outlines and bulges in the return image and then tries to match them to weapon outlines. It can be spoofed if you know what frequencies you need to make noise on. Electronic warfare is on.

 

[Diamondback]

Hmmm... anyone know where I can get a good buy on a surplus ALQ-184 jamming pod?

 

[Diamondback]

Tell me about this?

It's called a "zip gun." HIGHLY illegal many places, and even where it is legal requires a $200 NFA stamp.

 

[thorborg]

The pen is mightier than the sword, man!

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I'm not so sure, in a fight for life, I'd rather have the sword with it's limitless hacking and stabbing magazine than a single shot 22 toy pen.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Interesting. This is not X-ray or anything of the sort. Nobody, not even the most hard core lefties, would unleash radiation generating devices into the hands of the great unwashed masses. This is SONAR which also means it has low penetrating power and basically looks for outlines and bulges in the return image and then tries to match them to weapon outlines. It can be spoofed if you know what frequencies you need to make noise on. Electronic warfare is on.

 

[bbbass]

Nobody, not even the most hard core lefties, would unleash radiation generating devices into the hands of the great unwashed masses.

You mean like cellphones?

 

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[Diamondback]

So start making foil "gun shapes" and slipping them into every unattended coat you can...like pickpocketing in reverse. LOL

 

[Certaindeaf]

So start making foil "gun shapes" and slipping them into every unattended coat you can...like pickpocketing in reverse. LOL

Or a jamming device.. an 18 incher otta do it.

 

[Diamondback]

Foil "guns" are cheaper.

 

[Hawaiian]

Random stop and frisk/search in NY was ruled unconstitutional. Outside of restricted zones, this would also be.

 

[Flopsweat]

Quick, start a rumor that they're going use them against ANTIFA.

 

[Ralgha]

It's not sonar, the company states that it uses RF imaging, sonar uses sound. RF (assuming they're telling the truth) puts it somewhere between 20kHz 300GHz. The principle is similar to sonar, but it's not sonar.

 

[The Heretic]

I'm wondering how this thing works, is it zapping everybody in range with x-rays, or is it just doing a visible search (seems unlikely). I want to see independent health study results on it.

That aside, new market for lead lined clothing?

Probably Hall effect - the same as traffic sensors or metal detectors. Anything electrically conductive induces a current in the sensor. But it cannot discern shapes, just amount of electrically conductive material. So a large belt buckle would probably set it off, but probably not a cell phone. It won't tell them you have a gun, just enough metal on you to be a gun - so expect some false positives and they cannot search you without your permission.

I doubt stores would buy this for regular scanning of everybody; it would require someone walking around scanning everybody and dealing with the fallout. OTOH, they might buy one for security personnel in large stores to deal with troublemakers.

 

[Flopsweat]

Probably Hall effect - the same as traffic sensors or metal detectors. Anything electrically conductive induces a current in the sensor. But it cannot discern shapes, just amount of electrically conductive material. So a large belt buckle would probably set it off, but probably not a cell phone. It won't tell them you have a gun, just enough metal on you to be a gun - so expect some false positives and they cannot search you without your permission.

I doubt stores would buy this for regular scanning of everybody; it would require someone walking around scanning everybody and dealing with the fallout. OTOH, they might buy one for security personnel in large stores to deal with troublemakers.

Well they did mention that it produces an outline of the person being scanned, so it seems like they are getting shapes.

A featureless outline of the person being scanned is displayed, instantly alerting agents to location and type of concealed weapons or explosives. Royal Holdings employs artificial intelligence (AI) to quickly crosscheck and verify weapons and explosives with its securely maintained cloud-based database. In addition, built-in facial recognition operating in real time compares suspects to watch lists for positive identification. SWORD operates globally and features real time location sharing and generates real time alerts in the event of a mass shooting, terror threat, or terror attack.