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Suppressor?

Discussion in 'NFA Weapon Discussion' started by Contract_Pilot, Oct 24, 2010.

  1. Contract_Pilot

    Contract_Pilot Vancouver, Washington Active Member

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    I am trying to figure out actually what part of the suppressor is the part that needs to be registered like the receiver of a firearm?

    Say of one wanted to make their own replacement baffle or other repair part?
     
  2. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ATF has ruled that all parts of the suppressor are the suppressor, unfortunately. this makes it difficult to repair them.
     
  3. BIG_GUNNUT

    BIG_GUNNUT North Central Oregon Active Member

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    The outer tube is the registered part. It has the serial number on it.
     
  4. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    The tube is the usual part that is engraved. You can replace any part of the silencer except the tube, as long as you pay another $200 tax or send it to a licensed FFL/SOT class 2 for parts replacement. You can make repairs that do not involve parts replacement, changing bore size or lengthening the tube. I have hammered out baffle strikes on two of my cans that I made.

    The only parts an unlicensed maker can replace are wipes, and only after the originals have been destroyed. You can never have any kind of extra parts available as a non-FFL/SOT. Yeah it sucks to be us.

    Here is an FAQ written by the ATF. It is how they currently interpret the law. They recently changed how they define machine guns, so beware. ATF Online - Firearms - Frequently Asked Questions - National Firearms Act (NFA) - Silencers

    Ranb
     
  5. Contract_Pilot

    Contract_Pilot Vancouver, Washington Active Member

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    They recently changed how they define machine guns? When? Please post new definition?
     
  6. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    i don't have a link, but as i recall, they broadened the wording to specifically include semi-autos that are malfunctioning.

    so you'd better carry a cutting torch with you in case your weapon ever doubles.
     
  7. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    More than one round with a single pull of the trigger. Even if its with a malfunction or user supplied parts with no timing parts.
     
  8. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    Read up on the Akins Accelerator. They originally said it was not a machine gun because it fired one round with each function of the trigger. Later they said it was a machine gun as it fired more than one round with each function of the trigger finger.

    No change in the law, just a change in how the ATF interpreted it.

    Ranb
     
  9. wired

    wired Yakima Well-Known Member

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    The examiner who approved the akins accelerator in the first place probably got his chops busted pretty hard once the upper brass figured out what was going on. Theres no way that thing should have ever been approved. You know it and so do they.
     
  10. Ranb

    Ranb Belfair, WA Active Member

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    Actually I disagree. The trigger was pulled for each round fired. But I do not want to discuss it here, another thread should be created to do that.

    Ranb
     
  11. Ben Beckerich

    Ben Beckerich NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    i do- that's a load of crap. his device was perfectly legal. it's not his fault the law was flawed. the law IS flawed- it's bubbleguming unconsitutional, so of course it's flawed. it's irrational, and nothing irrational survives logical scrutiny.
     
  12. DoubleTapDrew

    DoubleTapDrew Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It's not right that they can change the interpretation of the law whenever it suits them. It fired one shot per function (pull) of the trigger, but since the receiver reciprocated it "violated the spirit" of the law :mad:
    Kind of makes you wonder if your finger can be considered an unregistered MG if you bumpfire your rifle.
    Now customers are left with $1,000 non-functioning 10/22 stocks from an Oregon entrepreneur. "All your spring are belong to us!"
    On the other hand I'm sure the wording on the original homepage didn't help (said something about "the loophole to the '86 machinegun ban"). ATF probably felt like it was being taunted.
    It's too bad, a full-auto 10/22 sounds like a fun little machine.

    And Ranb perfectly explained the answer to the original question, spare suppressor parts are a no-no.