The last time I qualified with an AR, I was given a very worn probably 20 year old rifle (pre forward assist) off the rack. We shot 5 stations 20 rounds each. I scored 96 out of 100 with the majority of the hits in a 1" ragged hole in the center of the target. There is no comparison to an AK.
I have no desire to own any gun that is not accurate, what is the point???
I actually got a few more than those that's a old picture lol I think I got about 25 now but I'll pick some more up here and there I'm always looking for the metal ones
A consistently accurate AK at 300 yards is beyond any experienced persons belief. I doubght that you have much real experiance. I, as Andy have used, trained and been the target of many military rifle systems including the AK. The last time I went against one was in Central America, off course we didn't play fair, responding with an M60 (if you know what that is) The AK platform was specifically designed for use by poorly trained personnel and to be cheep to manufacture. A little like the rifle vs musket contest we had during our revolutionary war. Muskets can be effective but a trained rifle equipped troop will win nearly every time. One of my distant grandfathers came to this country as a paid Waldeck mercenary working for the British, within the first 2 years here, he defected and joined the American unit commanded by George Rogers Clark, (the older brother of William Clark) they are considered the first special forces unit in the American military. They were equipped with accurate rifles and were commonly known to engage the enemy (Indian or British) at 300 yards long outside the range of the opposing muskets. After the war my grandfather became involved with Daniel Boone, also a great rifleman and charged with training the Boone settlements in riflemansship. He was renound in his ability with a rifle. The AK is more akin to a Musket than a rifle. So, I live in Western Idaho and will gladly travel to a range of your choosing to establish who is full of BS here. You bring your best AK and I will bring my mostly stock AR carbine. I will even add 1000.00 to the pot to make it interesting.I don't know why I find myself having to tell an alleged adult these things, but here goes:
Your personal anecdotes are not data that can support your baseless assertions.
No one in this thread has so much as argued that the typical AK is going to outshoot the typical AR, so your injection of AR chest beating is really rather silly. In fact, you've been busy filling out a stereotype of certain AR owners as being bubble gumming feminine hygiene products.
Agreed. I have Ar15s that I love dearly, and just finished a Molot Vepr 7.62x39 conversion that shoots better then my factory PSA AR15. There's room in the safe for all types of rifles.
Very true...and I would like to go to Alaska ( AK ) one day...No such thing as an evil rifle,only evil people.
Oh,and AK all the way
My wife is Hungarian, We spent a Week there last year with her relatives........buy a Steyr M95. Classic Hungarian arm, very high quality interesting inexpensive rifle, I have a carbine that looks unfired............Being relatively new to firearms. And swearing I wasn't going to get into long guns (too far to walk to check/change targets), I had to buy one of each! AR and AK! You may just find your self buying one once you actually get up close and personal with one. For myself I felt I needed the authenticity of a Polish AK. I'm 50% Hungarian and that's as close as I could get to owning a gun of my people.
Gosh I must really be low....I've got a CZ, Tanfoglio and German Mauser training rifle.
Strange to see members of the forum playing the "My toys are better than your toys" games though.
