Since we are scratching our heads over foreign 9mm ... how about this one?

[DLS]

Anybody have any info on this 9x19 ammo? I think the triangle shape indicates Norinco ... but I'm not willing to bet anything on that thought.

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[BillM]

Anybody have any info on this 9x19 ammo? I think the triangle shape indicates Norinco ... but I'm not willing to bet anything on that thought.

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Norinco 1989. Probably came 50 per in a yellow NORINCO box. Imported by ChinaSports Inc.

 

[DLS]

Thank you!

 

[edzz]

ATF head stamp guide
Norinco

per alphabet agency

 

[CLT65]

Norinco 1989. Probably came 50 per in a yellow NORINCO box. Imported by ChinaSports Inc.

I remember it well, shot plenty of it back in the day.

 

[JuglansRegia]

Is the bullet brass jacket? Or at least the same color of the case, then it is the Norinco stuff time you could buy in the early 90's

 

[DLS]

The bullet is the exact color as the case.

 

[JuglansRegia]

The bullet is the exact color as the case.

Then my vote would be Norinco, only 9mm l ever came across that was like that

 

[DLS]

I have a large batch of old S&B that has a matching bullet and case. It has a heavy red lacquer sealant over the primer and on the bullet, leaving a nice red ring just above the case mouth. Some current production S&B does this too.

Sorry for the blurry photo!

 

[HighlandLofts]

I got some of these in range brass.

 

[CLT65]

I got some of these in range brass.


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The first time I saw those, I was confused and thought it was some kind of Arabic or something. I felt silly when someone told me to turn the headstamp sideways and see if I could make out the Browning buck symbol!

It's actually good brass, some kind of dark chrome or something. I pick it up all the time too. I think a lot of people overlook because at first glance it looks like junk steel cases.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

Then my vote would be Norinco, only 9mm l ever came across that was like that

I have Fiocchi and S&B like that where the case and bullet appear to be identical colors and I want to say some Geco. (The Geco being my preferred plinking round, and the majority of which is not like this)

 

[crossbow5]

The OP's ammo is Norinco.

 

[Wombat of Doom]

The OP's ammo is Norinco. View attachment 806230View attachment 806231

Indeed. Just mentioning some other examples of matching case and bullet I was aware of.

 

[DLS]

Well, I shot up the 45 S&B rounds I was given, all went bang. I used them for transition drills can't comment on the accuracy but it seems on par with most range ammo.

I'll be shooting the Norinco stuff tomorrow and give a report.

 

[po18guy]

Looks like...

9 x 19mm unknown with a " Δ " in the headstamp

I did a search here on the forum but could not find this being discussed so at the risk of being a repeat is there any information on the maker of this 9 x 19mm cartridge? Headstamp = " 9MM PARA Δ 93 ". Nonmagnetic FMJ bullet (copper jacket), brass case and primer, green primer annulus...

forum.cartridgecollectors.org

 

[DLS]

Well, I touched off about 60 of the Norinco ammo I have. It performs about what I'd expect from military loadings of 9mm NATO. Very similar point of impact and muzzle flip.

What was not expected was the soccer ball sized ball of fire coming out of the ends of my CZ P10F and G19

The muzzle flash was on par with my heavy Blue Dot loads shot in my .44 Magnum!

The burned powder smelled funny too ... not like any powder I've smelled before. Chalk it up the the Chi Com way of doing things I guess!

 

[Flymph]

I'Ve heard a lot about the chinese using over charged ammo for their pistols. Notoriously using 7.62 Tokarev in Mauser C96's and the like.

 

[coop44]

Wow, I touched off about 60 of the Norinco ammo I have. It performs about what I'd expect from military loadings of 9mm NATO. Very similar point of impact and muzzle flip.

What was not expected was the soccer ball sized ball of fire coming out of the ends of my CZ P10F and G19

The muzzle flash was on par with my heavy Blue Dot loads shot in my .44 Magnum!

The burned powder smelled funny too ... not like any powder I've smelled before. Chalk it up the the Chi Com way of doing things I guess!

I noticed an ammonia smell With a lot of the Chinese ammo I don't know if that's the powder or the primer or the Evil spirits. Maybe they figured out a way to make gun powder out of pig poo.

 

[Caveman Jim]

I got some of these in range brass.


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So have I, knew it was the Browning headstamp and sold it all, no complaints from those that bought it.