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I hear ya and I think that is a valid point.
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I think if you look at the numbers reported by the state for private party transfers, it's pretty safe to assume that "will not comply" is likely the norm rather than the exception. Total of 173 "official" transfers in the month of November. I have a feeling there are far more than that going on, just looking at the number of listings between NWFA and AL every month.
Criminals don't care about this. I guess it comes down to being a conscientious criminal who would not sell a firearm to someone not allowed to own a firearm, or a bad criminal who does not care about the law or whom they sell the gun to. Either way, it's like concealed carry...or a tree falling in the woods.I miss the days when you could buy and sell your tools without government approval.
I have no facts to back it up but I suspect at least in Washington the new law has resulted in more guns in the hands of law abiding folks
Prior to I594 I would try to exhaust all hope of buying used before I would consider new and often would sell stuff that I had lost interest in to fund new purchases.
Since it went into effect I have not sold a single firearm and everything I have bought has been new (I would have to scratch my head for a minute but including NFA stuff I would say I bought close to 20 "firearms" in 2015 although many where suppressors and one a SBR)
So at least for me personally my collection grew significantly because of the hassle of private FFL deals.
I understand that is probably not typical but I would bet that across the board there is no doubt that it had a significant effect on the number of legal guns in good folks hands.
Not that I think the law is acceptable, but more guns is a good thing regardless
Good post , ya other states allow non-ffl transfers with a CHL. Prozanski shut down that request during sessions.--- I have done alot of transfers the guys know who I am, and know my number when I call.
In WA the whole process takes about 10-15 minutes and I get more time to inspect my potential purpose.
In OR I wouldn't bother (not even new) Last time I went to do a deal over there it took 2 hours and the guy was delayed for a month. The time before that it took a hour amd a half. Talk about a waste of my time.
- as a side note why don't they pass a exemption for cpl holders, or even make me pay a fee for a background check exemption card good for a year. Then if you decide to buy a gun the owner sends in a transfer sheet. Seems easy, then the state gets additional revenue and doesn't have to pay all that overtime to OSP
Because keeping guns out of the hands of bad guys is not the actual goal.
Its about making it harder for good, honest folks to do honest things.
i was at my buddies house who happens to have his FFL. another friend of mine was there and had been there 4 1/2hrs waiting fpr OSP. he was #470 in line when they started... BS if u ask me.--- I have done alot of transfers the guys know who I am, and know my number when I call.
In WA the whole process takes about 10-15 minutes and I get more time to inspect my potential purpose.
In OR I wouldn't bother (not even new) Last time I went to do a deal over there it took 2 hours and the guy was delayed for a month. The time before that it took a hour amd a half. Talk about a waste of my time.
- as a side note why don't they pass a exemption for cpl holders, or even make me pay a fee for a background check exemption card good for a year. Then if you decide to buy a gun the owner sends in a transfer sheet. Seems easy, then the state gets additional revenue and doesn't have to pay all that overtime to OSP
What ever happened to "I will not comply?" Just curious, seems like so much talk...
Play it smart, don't talk OR WRITE ABOUT IT.............
Everyone is talking about "complying" so by what you say people shouldn't be discussing it, which is preferable to them giving everyone the impression here that they're all going along with it.
We don't want to be fooling each other. Just, certain people...
They DO watch these sites. We do have several LEO'S on this site. sooner or later OSP will
start running sting's. I prefer my handle is not associated with non compliance.
They DO watch these sites. We do have several LEO'S on this site. sooner or later OSP will
start running sting's. I prefer my handle is not associated with non compliance.
They DO watch these sites. We do have several LEO'S on this site. sooner or later OSP will
start running sting's. I prefer my handle is not associated with non compliance.