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Seattle public library forum on 'gun violence'

Discussion in 'Legal & Political Archive' started by Dave Workman, Oct 28, 2015.

  1. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  2. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    I'm sure the 30% drop in gun crime will be covered intensely ;)
    Along w/the fact that it is Democrat controlled cities that account for the vast majority of violent crime in the US
     
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  3. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Having a single sided conversation about a topic with no opposition....

    Sounds very Democratic...
     
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  4. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    The impact of violent guns is zero. The impact of violent humans using guns is that the President will postulate that SOMETHING needs to be done, and that in turn results in a buying frenzy at the gun shop.

    That was easy, no?
     
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  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    By "public conversation" they mean "an exchange of ignorant/delusional comments and statements". :rolleyes:
     
  6. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    It's time to take away any government funding they're receiving. Having a public forum that ignores the first amendment to attack the second? Why are more people not on the side of liberty and freedom in this country? I'm really not surprised, just disappointed in so many of my fellow Americans :(
     
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  7. David Bowman

    David Bowman Beaverton OR Archer Defense Concepts

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    :s0140:

    Lots ego stroking about "raising awareness" with words and phrases like "magazine ban" and "universal background check."

    Whatever....
     
  8. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    David, you nailed it.... bubblegumming EGO!
     
  9. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Is it coming down to a battle over bias?

    Last night’s Republican debate on CNBC has earned scathing critiques from conservative commentators about media bias, and a similar conversation has erupted among Western Washington Second Amendment activists regarding a program tonight at the Seattle Public Library on so-called “gun violence” because there is no representation on the panel from any firearms organization.


    http://www.examiner.com/article/is-it-coming-down-to-a-battle-over-bias
     
  10. Caveman Jim

    Caveman Jim West of Oly Springer Slayer 2016 Volunteer

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  11. Slobray

    Slobray Yelm, WA Well-Known Member

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    Richard Wang....I would say he's a double d*ck.

    Sorry, I know, very sophomoric, I just couldn't help myself.


    Ray
     
  12. Diamondback

    Diamondback A cold, wet green Hell Well-Known Member

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    SOmetimes ya just gotta let it all hang out... :D
     
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  13. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I had a history teacher in high school named Richard Large. He always went by Dick. That was not lost on any of his students. I couldn't help but imagine roll call when he was a kid in school...."Large, Dick" to which he probably just responded "yes" :rolleyes:
     
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  14. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Guy down here was Richard Head. Yes he prefered not to be called Richard. I laughed as a small child when I learned who he was. (that's been 25 years ago)
     
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  15. NWGlockgal

    NWGlockgal Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I met an elderly gentleman many years ago named Oral Love.
     
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  16. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    This is a true story... our family doctor when I was growing up was named Richard M. Cockburn... OMG!:eek:
     
  17. Dave Workman

    Dave Workman Western Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    And THIS is how a thread gets derailed. :rolleyes:
    And why we don't stay focused. And how we lose.
    Did anyone attend this event?
     
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  18. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Dave, we're focused but some us are just capable of multitasking is all. o_O

    There's not a whole hell of a lot to laugh about these days, sometimes folks need their medicine. :oops:
     
  19. 308

    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Let's focus on the thoughts of:

    · Amir Islam, co-founder of United Hood Movement (UHM).
    · Fred Rivara, University of Washington pediatrician and gun violence researcher.
    · Kurt Geissel, owner of Café Racer and artist against gun violence.
    · Paul Patu, co-founder of Urban Family, intervention specialist and youth advocate.

    :rolleyes:
     
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  20. boogerhook

    boogerhook Seattle Well-Known Member

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    post from Solyanik on some other forum:

    "I went there. There were 4 panelists, of which one was gun owners, two were organizers trying to solve various problems in black communities, and one Harborview doctor.

    The gun owner was clearly an after-though addition, based on the popular demand smile emoticon.

    The meeting started with the doctor from Harborview showing presentation with selected facts on epidemic of violence which is currently gripping the nation. Just a propaganda piece, nothing interesting. He had a graph showing the precipitous drop in driving casualties, per million miles driving. I was semi-expected a graph of growing firearms casualties, per million bullets fired, but it did not follow. All the stats about evil guns ended with the standard BS - let's ban assault weapons, high capacity magazines, all this idiotic crap. I swear to FSM, bless his noodly appendage, where I am from if a paper would show the data to support the theory and ignore equivalent amount of data that would refute it, the "researcher" would be ostracized. I am not a big fan of social "sciences".

    The gun person was clearly engaged at the last minute, and was clearly not as prepared as I would have liked. He talked a little bit - a lot less than was needed - about "wacky legislation" , never challenged the MD guy on AWB or high cap magazines, mentioned Seattle gun tax only in passing, etc.

    The other two guys were actually very reasonable. Their solution was mostly social - working with disadvantaged youth, etc. To my memory they never called for any gun control measure, and at least one of them pointed out that some gun control measures are inherently racist.

    The audience was quite reasonable - there was little hysteria, only one woman called openly for gun control. Mostly there were questions to the panel. There was only 30 seconds allotted for comments, I used mine to tell them about Australia, where after gun ban gun violence dropped, but overall homicide rates stayed exactly the same.

    Overall, I would love it to be more of a debate with exchange of actual information, but the civility of the discourse was quite welcome."
     
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