Other State San Jose Making Gun Owners Pay for Gun Violence.

[nwslopoke]

Waiting for drinkers to pay for DUI related deaths. Or anyone to pay for crimes they haven't committed.

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

Waiting for drinkers to pay for DUI related deaths. Or anyone to pay for crimes they haven't committed.

That's not the best argument, because taxes levied on weed and alcohol do in fact pay for rehabilitation and other related services.

 

[bentoncity]

San Jose to Require Gun Owners to Have Liability Insurance, Pay Fees

The city of San Jose, California, will require gun owners to pay a yearly fee and purchase liability insurance. A new law would make San Jose the first city in the nation to require owners of firearms to have insurance and pay fees...

www.newsmax.com

The city of San Jose, California, will require gun owners to pay a yearly fee and purchase liability insurance.

A new law would make San Jose the first city in the nation to require owners of firearms to have insurance and pay fees to relieve taxpayers of the costs of responding to gun violence, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. The city council voted unanimously to draft the law on Tuesday.

The move comes about a month after a gunman killed nine workers at a rail yard in San Jose.

The gunman shot himself as police closed in on him. The shooter and the nine victims were employees of the transit agency situated near the city's airport.

"Grieving communities don't have the luxury of forgetting," Sam Liccardo, mayor of San Jose wrote in a column posted by CNN on June 15. "We live among devastated family members, we hear the echoes of painful eulogies, and we work with traumatized friends.

"I joined several colleagues to propose a comprehensive set of initiatives to reduce gun-related harm in San Jose.

"These proposals include two measures that no other city nor state in the United States has ever tried: mandatory gun insurance to support victims, and mandatory gun fees to compensate taxpayers. As with many other Silicon Valley innovations, we intend to implement and test these ideas, learn from our mistakes, improve, iterate and provide a platform for others to scale them to benefit their own communities.

"We will require every gun owner in my city to have liability insurance, regardless of where they purchased their gun. Insurance compensates the victims of unintentional gun harm -- which annually injures 27,000 Americans and claims the lives of 500 more -- paying medical bills, rehabilitative needs, and tragically, funeral expenses.

"We will require gun owners to pay a modest annual fee to compensate taxpayers for the cost of gun-related violence. Every day, our residents bear the financial burden for police officers who bravely respond to shootings, for ambulances that transport the wounded, and for trauma surgeons to save them."

It is uncertain just how much the fees will be, but the Chronicle reported that Liccardo said it would probably be "a couple dozen dollars" and would not be charged to those who could not afford it.

Fox News noted that officials said that anyone found to be in noncompliance will have their weapons confiscated.

I can't wait to see how these morons intend to enforce something so f..ing asinine. I hope they get sued to death. I'll bet those criminals will be lining up at the insurance companies.
How do people get to be this damn stupid? Maybe it's climate change?

 

[Certaindeaf]

That's not the best argument, because taxes levied on weed and alcohol do in fact pay for rehabilitation and other related services.

Those are forced/mandatory graft boondoggles with a recidivism rate of close to 100% which is fantastic if you want to spend and or make money.

 

[titsonritz]

There is already a thread going on this subject...
https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...ers-pay-for-gun-violence.378784/#post-2992661

 

[Mathias]

San Jose to Require Gun Owners to Have Liability Insurance, Pay Fees

The city of San Jose, California, will require gun owners to pay a yearly fee and purchase liability insurance. A new law would make San Jose the first city in the nation to require owners of firearms to have insurance and pay fees...

www.newsmax.com

The city of San Jose, California, will require gun owners to pay a yearly fee and purchase liability insurance.

A new law would make San Jose the first city in the nation to require owners of firearms to have insurance and pay fees to relieve taxpayers of the costs of responding to gun violence, the San Francisco Chronicle reported. The city council voted unanimously to draft the law on Tuesday.

The move comes about a month after a gunman killed nine workers at a rail yard in San Jose.

The gunman shot himself as police closed in on him. The shooter and the nine victims were employees of the transit agency situated near the city's airport.

"Grieving communities don't have the luxury of forgetting," Sam Liccardo, mayor of San Jose wrote in a column posted by CNN on June 15. "We live among devastated family members, we hear the echoes of painful eulogies, and we work with traumatized friends.

"I joined several colleagues to propose a comprehensive set of initiatives to reduce gun-related harm in San Jose.

"These proposals include two measures that no other city nor state in the United States has ever tried: mandatory gun insurance to support victims, and mandatory gun fees to compensate taxpayers. As with many other Silicon Valley innovations, we intend to implement and test these ideas, learn from our mistakes, improve, iterate and provide a platform for others to scale them to benefit their own communities.

"We will require every gun owner in my city to have liability insurance, regardless of where they purchased their gun. Insurance compensates the victims of unintentional gun harm -- which annually injures 27,000 Americans and claims the lives of 500 more -- paying medical bills, rehabilitative needs, and tragically, funeral expenses.

"We will require gun owners to pay a modest annual fee to compensate taxpayers for the cost of gun-related violence. Every day, our residents bear the financial burden for police officers who bravely respond to shootings, for ambulances that transport the wounded, and for trauma surgeons to save them."

It is uncertain just how much the fees will be, but the Chronicle reported that Liccardo said it would probably be "a couple dozen dollars" and would not be charged to those who could not afford it.

Fox News noted that officials said that anyone found to be in noncompliance will have their weapons confiscated.

I can't wait to see how these morons intend to enforce something so f..ing asinine. I hope they get sued to death. I'll bet those criminals will be lining up at the insurance companies.
How do people get to be this damn stupid? Maybe it's climate change?

When does the first lawsuit start?

 

[Tony617]

Watching the Guns & Gadget video they expect to be sued but they are going ahead with plan anyways. It is a separate account so if the plan is struck down they can reimburse the payee.

 

[bentoncity]

There is already a thread going on this subject...
https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...ers-pay-for-gun-violence.378784/#post-2992661

I looked for something before posting but didn't see it. Mods can delete if wanted. Appreciate the heads up.

Dan

 

[Longwalkhome]

Oh but there is more.

 

[nwslopoke]

That's not the best argument, because taxes levied on weed and alcohol do in fact pay for rehabilitation and other related services.

About as much as the gas tax pays for fixing potholes in Seattle (they missed a few). Alcohol taxes may acknowledge Alcoholism but if one gets a DUI they are still $10-20k out of pocket not including any jail time.

Not sure outside of a sign here and there what the tax prevents. Much like a tax on law and order gun owners in San Jose that don't do mass shootings and don't shoot it out with da police resulting in big lawsuits against the city. Also, allowing the recording of your gun purchases opens many other doors of government intrusion. The argument that, well they already...doesn't make it legal. San Jose pushes compromise for the greater good to new levels.

 

[FourTeeFive]

 

[Deavis]

I was just curious, what other rights do you get charged to exercise?

If you deny consent for a warrantless search is there a charge?

How about voting? We charging for that?

Charged for practicing your religion?

Charge and permit to write an editorial?

 

[WalkingTall]

San Jose to tax gun owners, will confiscate firearms for noncompliance

The city council of San Jose, California, has unanimously voted in favor of issuing a tax on firearm owners and requiring them to carry additional insurance in a scheme they say will help compensate the city for the costs of gun violence.

www.foxbusiness.com

 

[Alexx1401]

Well I hope the voters there who sat on their hands and refused to participate enjoy what they won now.

 

[Snip]

That's not the best argument, because taxes levied on weed and alcohol do in fact pay for rehabilitation and other related services.

What taxes are levied on heroin? How about meth? Cocaine? Legal marijuanna is a small part of the pie. There are sales taxes on alcohol sales, but there's not much that goes back into treatment programs that I'm aware of.

 

[Aero Denezol]

Bottom line, 99.99% of gun owners are not murdering anyone. The utopist bolshevists don't like us, that's all there is to it . We are once against the handy scapegoats for a sick society.

 

[Aero Denezol]

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[Lennie]

 

[2Wheels4Ever]

What taxes are levied on heroin? How about meth? Cocaine? Legal marijuanna is a small part of the pie. There are sales taxes on alcohol sales, but there's not much that goes back into treatment programs that I'm aware of.

You're comparing apples to oranges here. Meth and heroin are not legal. Weed and alcohol are, and the some of those taxes do go to the problems that deal with abuse of said drugs.

So using that argument against these anti gun radicals is not likely to get you very far.

 

[American123]

I always think it's funny when politicians write things that say, "we will confiscate your guns if you don't comply."

Might as well just put on the 1700's British uniform and march on Lexington and Concord.