Roswell Incident 1947

[RVTECH]

 

[Flopsweat]

Man, do I have to do everything?

Phoenix Lights Phenomenon

Unidentified Flapping Object.

 

[RVTECH]

A somewhat recent article.

More than 20 years later, mystery of Phoenix Lights still fascinates people

Wednesday marks the 22nd anniversary of one of the strangest things to ever happen in Arizona, the Phoenix Lights phenomenon.

ktar.com

 

[Flopsweat]

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<sigh>

 

[raftman]

I'm very much a skeptic regarding things like alien visitation... but the idea of covering up a B-29 crash with an alleged UFO incident seems like something unnecessarily elaborate and sensational. Why not simply lie about the kind of plane it was and what it was doing? For instance, B-17's were still in service for various second-line uses like transport and photo reconnaissance. Why not say it was a second-line plane on a routine exercise of some type that suffered a malfunction?

 

[RVTECH]

but the idea of covering up a B-29 crash with an alleged UFO incident seems like something unnecessarily elaborate and sensational.

Kind of like when the 'Phoenix Lights' incident took place. The Military later said the lights were 'flares being dropped from planes during an exercise'

Yea right. Flares all stay in a perfect line and rise and fall simultaneously right? I remember laughing my azz off at the time about that.

And it was later discovered the military reported the exercise took place at 10:00 PM - and the 'Phoenix lights' were seen at like 8:30 PM. I remember it well and was watching the new story on it at the time.

The interesting part about Roswell however is they did NOT maintain the 'Flying Saucer/Disk' story as first reported. IF it was intended to cover something else up why did they not continue with it? Maybe they did not expect the UFO story to gain as much attention as it did and thought it would be easier to simply create another cover story that was a lot less sensational.

 

[Xaevian]

Kind of like when the 'Phoenix Lights' incident took place. The Military later said the lights were 'flares being dropped from planes during an exercise'

Yea right. Flares all stay in a perfect line and rise and fall simultaneously right? I remember laughing my azz off at the time about that.

And it was later discovered the military reported the exercise took place at 10:00 PM - and the 'Phoenix lights' were seen at like 8:30 PM. I remember it well and was watching the new story on it at the time.

I've seen flares deployed numerous times while in the Army, aircraft and artillery launched. I saw the Pheonix Lights footage when it first came out and before an explanation was provided. They sure looked like military flares to me, and I never revisited the event. Still see no reason too, at least for that one.

 

[ma96782]

A "Blood Chit" allegedly recovered at the scene?



Nah......look at how many stars are in that flag.

Aloha, Mark

 

[RVTECH]

Here is an odd UFO vid from 2014.

 

[jayR]

#rd hand info. In the 1960's rumors were they tested some of these vehicles in Hawthorne, NV. . Some workers died as a result. Weird stuff - blood becoming magnetic and such... EG&G was involved.
Everything in the public eye may be 100 years behind in actual technological achievements.

 

[RVTECH]

rumors were they tested some of these vehicles in Hawthorne, NV.

What 'vehicles' are you referring to?

 

[jayR]

Some silent form of levitation. Whether electro-magenetic or electro-gravitic.. ?
Lights in town were said to have gone out during the times they were testing.

 

[Flopsweat]

Some silent form of levitation. Whether electro-magenetic or electro-gravitic.. ?
Lights in town were said to have gone out during the times they were testing.

Hard to say. It literally could have been anything, terrestrial or otherwise. I'm fine with saying we don't know what's in the video. Beyond that, it's usually just speculation.

 

[jayR]

Sorry - should have quoted RV's question. I was referring the Hawthorne, NV. rumor.

 

[RVTECH]

I was referring the Hawthorne, NV. rumor.

Do you have a name for the vehicle or something to reference the vehicle tests/rumors?

I'd like to look it up.

 

[RVTECH]

If aliens land on Earth.

Good possibility they already have - or did in the past....

 

[ilikegunspdx]

I'm very much a skeptic regarding things like alien visitation... but the idea of covering up a B-29 crash with an alleged UFO incident seems like something unnecessarily elaborate and sensational. Why not simply lie about the kind of plane it was and what it was doing? For instance, B-17's were still in service for various second-line uses like transport and photo reconnaissance. Why not say it was a second-line plane on a routine exercise of some type that suffered a malfunction?

My guess is it's much more simple than that, Fe:

1) nuke loaded b-29 crashes (keep in mind the date, 2 years before soviets test first nuke there is likely strong desire to keep everything secret)

2) commander says oh crap, we'll need to clean this up and keep it secret

3) commander and his advisors find out that locals are claiming ufo stuff

4) commander says ok let's let that play out and this will blow over

5) later on they r getting too much pressure and attention and commander says we need to have a more believable cover story to make this attention go away, so they go with weather balloon

 

[RVTECH]

later on they r getting too much pressure and attention and commander says we need to have a more believable cover story to make this attention go away, so they go with weather balloon

Exactly!

One report was they (the military) tried to stop the guy from delivering the 'Flying saucer' story to the two radio stations and the newspapers but they didn't make it in time.

 

[ilikegunspdx]

Exactly!

One report was they (the military) tried to stop the guy from delivering the 'Flying saucer' story to the two radio stations and the newspapers but they didn't make it in time.

That makes sense. Human nature I think. In an emergency we often don't think as clearly and grasp for solutions. Stepping away from it and having time allows for clearer thought. Also a lot depends on intelligence and competency of the commander I think. Very possible change to weather balloon story was simply an order from higher up too.

 

[jayR]

I do not have anything to offer search for "Hawthorne Nevada UFO" or similar.
does this work?

Private unfortunately

more to look at.