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Question on sunscreen

Discussion in 'Preparedness & Survival' started by Liberty97045, May 6, 2016.

  1. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    I am putting together GHB (get home bags) for my family members and I would like to include some sunscreen but I want something that is completely stable which leaves out modern chemical sunscreens that all expire in 2-3 years.

    Old-school Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide would probably do the trick but I can't find them. Any pointers on this?
     
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  2. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Coconut oil has anti uv properties.

    As well as being stable for a long time and has hundreds of other uses.

    Anti bacterial.

    Good source of good fat.

    It breathes as opposed to most other oils - I use it exclusively to heal large tattoos, I don't use any of that other commercial garbage and don't get pimples or infections IMO because of that.

    Etc, etc.


    Light long sleeve shirts, pants and a hat will cover most of you.
     
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  3. Larrytpdx

    Larrytpdx Portland, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Search "zinc oxide sunscreen" on eBay. There's a bunch. And ALWAYS get SPF50 for any sunscreen. Nothing less. (My wife is a dermatology nurse).
     
  4. 2506

    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Anything after spf 45 is getting silly.
    Sunscreen is just like voting--do it early and often.
     
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  5. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    All the zinc oxides I can find have a shelf life. I suppose I could get the powder and make a paste as needed. I remember my dad in the 60s using a small tube of pure white zinc on his nose.
    Guess I may have to settle for a ball cap
     
  6. Liberty97045

    Liberty97045 Oregon City Well-Known Member

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    I think I figured it out. Zinc oxide cream is now sold as a diaper rash oinkment. That actually could come in handy on a long walk . . .
     
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  7. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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  8. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I wear a boonie hat pretty much from March to October. Don't use any sun screen at all and work outside at least 4 hours to 9 hours each day. I like a hat versus sunscreen, just makes it easier.
     
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  9. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    Big hat, long sleeves and gloves is actually as good as any sunscreen
     
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  10. CoastRange57

    CoastRange57 Western Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Probably abit better since it affords additional protection against fatigue as well. I have worked outside during the spring summer and fall and got into big hats over 30 years ago, and then my Guatamalun (sp) workers go me into long sleeves. I still did shorts though. Never had a problem. Keeping your ears, neck and face covered with brims really cuts down on the fatigue factor. Then go with one of those polymer bandanas that you wet down and wear around the neck, cools your cartoid artery.

    Took a lesson from my boys in their military garb which protects them quite well, and the fact they will move to even a small spot of shade for even a few seconds if they have the chance.
     
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  11. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Hats and long sleeves are good (not to mention sunglasses), but don't forget reflected sunlight.

    Snow and water can cause sunburns as well as direct sunlight. Some other surfaces can also.

    I come from a family of farmers who worked in the fields from a young age before sunscreen was much of anything (at best maybe SPF 2 to 4, if at all).

    My grandfather had skin cancer and he always wore wide brimmed hats and long sleeves for as long as I can remember (grandma always reminded him when he didn't).

    My brothers and I, all about 60 or 60 plus, all have signs of sun spots on our arms and some on our faces (I am the worst). I have worn hats for decades but forget about the long sleeves from time to time.

    I put sun screen in my GHB and have it at home. I get the highest SPF I can, but I should probably get some zinc oxide too. You also probably should get some water resistant sunscreen.
     
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    2506 Seattle Well-Known Member

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    Heretic is right. Remember kids, there is no such thing as a healthy tan. Skin cancer will kill you.
     
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  13. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Take it or leave it, just thought I'd toss this in.

    My mom and uncle grew up in AZ and southern CA.

    They spent tons of time outside and he has a ton of sun spots and she doesn't have one.

    Difference is she moisturizes with coconut oil after showering every day.

    I would try it on your arms for a few months if you would want to try to reduce them.

    Or it could be a male female thing but I grew up on the equator and have yet to develop any skin issues (I tan into the browns and have rarely used sunscreen in my life - something I regret a bit) and use CO almost everyday.
     
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    edslhead Vanc Gold Supporter Gold Supporter Silver Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  15. mjbskwim

    mjbskwim Salmon,Idaho Well-Known Member

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    I went to big hats and long sleeves. I have been in the sun,working construction,too many years to keep testing it. The long sleeves soak up the sweat and keep you cool.
    Joe13 look at how most folks in sunny areas,besides SoCal,wear long sleazed and big hats. Or rags....:rolleyes: :D
    I believe the sun spots has more to do with your skin than what you put on it. Kinda like stretch marks. One gal will swear by something cause she never got them and the next never used any thing with the same results.
     
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  16. BEN LILLY

    BEN LILLY Lincoln City, OR NRA LIFE MEMBER Bronze Supporter

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    Check with a pharmacist, or REI
     
  17. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Well it is your largest organ, so it seems like there would be some ways to help preserve it and improve it's health. Maybe its not coconut oil only but hydrating your skin can go a long way to keeping it healthy.

    I have (choose) to use it to keep my tatts looking like they were done last week so I apply it regularly anyway.

    They have some really nice 100% UVA & UVB resistant clothing now too. Too expensive to work in but otherwise they are super light and keep you very cool.
     
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  18. Joe13

    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Lost me if your referring to my post so I'm assuming your responding to the OP.
     
  19. The Heretic

    The Heretic Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It may also be genetics.

    Of course, some of us are more prone to skin damage from the sun than others. My whole family is fair skinned - being German/French/Scottish does that. There is more than one red head with freckles in my family, including my younger brother, an uncle and an aunt.

    My skin damage is mostly on my arms and head - which have taken the most sun exposure.

    So lessening sun exposure makes sense to me.
     
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  20. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    My Wife tells me to use it. :s0123:
    My Mom tells me to use it. :s0123:
    My Cancer Dr. tells me to use it. :s0123:

    I don't use it. :s0018:
     
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