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Living in AZ, the thing that pisses me off are all these golf courses--Talk about a waste of water, seems like most of it could be evaporating & blowing elsewhere
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There's layers to be sure, but when it's a known issue with drinking water being shut off.. and lawns are illegal with huge fines. It's a bit of a dystopia event to have a thousand acre golf course pounding down a millions gallons of water/day to please the recreational desires of a few hundred golfers. In many ways you could view drinking water as a natural resource that should be a public resource with fair and equitable access for all. Like public access land.. national parks etc.You can call it "waste", or you can think about all the jobs created by those golf courses that allow people to make an honest living and support their families. From the groundskeepers to the pro shop to the restaurants, the office workers, the equipment makers, the fertilizer manufacturers and distributors. A whole web of economic activity based on golf.
I'm not saying we necessarily have to dump all that water on the desert the way we do, but calling it waste is only seeing a slice of what goes on.
Maybe we should do like the Saudis. I hear golf courses there are all sand except for the putting greens and golfers there carry around a piece of astroturf to play from. Don't know for a fact - never been there.
I guess I'm not familiar with the water situation in AZ. If people are being denied drinking water so a few elites can enjoy green fairways, that's a problem. But I haven't heard of anyone dying of thirst in AZ except maybe illegal border crossers.There's layers to be sure, but when it's a known issue with drinking water being shut off.. and lawns are illegal with huge fines. It's a bit of a dystopia event to have a thousand acre golf course pounding down a millions gallons of water/day to please the recreational desires of a few hundred golfers
If it's not, that sounds like a problem the state legislature should deal with.. In many ways you could view drinking water as a natural resource that should be a public resource with fair and equitable access for all. Like public access land.. national parks etc.
When elected officials do things like this, people should replace them.When the drinking water is cheap but then the city sells the reservoir to a private company and they then increase the price by 500% that's an issue.. same as when a city sets up a savings account and builds a bridge.. then the city sells it to a private company that charges $15/car to cross it.. like all around NYC.. that's another problem.
It's true, all the illegal aliens who work at the golf courses really appreciate the cash-under-the-table jobsYou can call it "waste", or you can think about all the jobs created by those golf courses that allow people to make an honest living and support their families. From the groundskeepers to the pro shop to the restaurants, the office workers, the equipment makers, the fertilizer manufacturers and distributors. A whole web of economic activity based on golf.
I'm not saying we necessarily have to dump all that water on the desert the way we do, but calling it waste is only seeing a slice of what goes on.
Maybe we should do like the Saudis. I hear golf courses there are all sand except for the putting greens and golfers there carry around a piece of astroturf to play from. Don't know for a fact - never been there.
Oh it can be done, there are many methods of treatment possible. I just wouldn't drink it down without using one of them, even boiling if it came to that.You know, we would just dump a cup of bleach into the tank every couple weeks when we changed out the filter.
I can see why a cistern would be a must in Ketchikan. I wasn't stationed there, but when working on a DoD project as a civilian, I did work on the island - we had some antennas and transceivers setup for testing on the CG property/buildings about 10 miles north of the city. The ground was very rocky while at the same time very mossy and full of water - in spots it was like walking on jello.I had one while living in Ketchikan, Alaska. City water is only available in town proper, everyone else has a cistern. Just make sure you have a really good filter and don't draw water off the bottom.... When I cleaned ours out, I removed buckets and buckets of pine needles, leaves and slugs....
I am sure they water at night.Living in AZ, the thing that pisses me off are all these golf courses--Talk about a waste of water, seems like most of it could be evaporating & blowing elsewhere
You just kind of described where I live, except in the last 50 years or so zoning has kept ag/forestry land from being subdivided outside the urban growth boundary. We can't subdivide our plots once setup. They could not even make these plots until a rule changed in the 90s. We could not sell part of our plot to an adjoining plot until about 5 years ago. So our plots are set in stone more or less.I grew up on wells. for you that don't understand what the gentrification of rural America looks like. picture 8 families living up a canyon on 80-acre properties. the farther up the canyon the steeper the land, everyone has 120' wells but the guy at the head of the canyon is higher in elevation. properties start getting subdivided and more wells get punched but now the new money goes down 300'. the original families can't afford it and get squeezed out.
My grandfather was in MM in WWI and then built ships in Portland during WWII.inner city Portland families moved in to make ships during WW2 mine came in covered wagons.
I spoke with the golf course sanitation specialist years ago, he assured me that using more than 5-6% greywater would cause the courses to smell real bad & be bad for business in general. These 6 golf courses are not the only courses in the area-- there are many more, all using CAP water & the grass stays green year round, far as I can tellI am sure they water at night.
We used to not water during the day - there was a myth that it burned the plants, but that is hogwash, it is just sometimes a waste of water. However, some plants need the water during the day. Drip irrigation is better if possible
Good ol muskeg. It was hell for hunting on. Like walking in quicksand all day. Ketchikan also gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 150" of rain a year so you never need to buy water.in spots it was like walking on jello.
I like it there (to a degree), although I was so busy working long hours that I did not get to see a lot of the island like I would have preferred. The people were nice and polite too - although it took some getting used to the slower pace. I much preferred it to Anchorage or Fairbanks. The weather wasn't near as harsh, there were a lot more tall trees - would have liked to do some fishing and hunting, but I just had no spare time while there.Good ol muskeg. It was hell for hunting on. Like walking in quicksand all day. Ketchikan also gets somewhere in the neighborhood of 150" of rain a year so you never need to buy water.