Ok my little poll on red laser or flashlight was very enlightening. So I thought lets try another. For those not up on the project. I am building a home defense Remington 870 shotgun. so far these are the details Remington 2 3/4" Wingmaster receiver ATI Akita adjustable Butt stock Remington Akita Adjustable Stock with Neoprene Cheekrest - Advanced Technology International Synthetic Police style ribbed foregrip (painted Dk Brown to match the Butt stock Magazine extension aluminum (2 or 3 rd depending on how long of barrel I decide on) The gun will have a 170-200 lumen LED flashlight mounted on the left side of the barrel/mag ext. in such a way it is easy to hold the foregrip and use my thumb to hit the flashlight butt end switch. No speedloader no extra rounds mounted on it etc. This will be a gun that is kept within reach of our bed. It will be stored in a hidden compartment (for lack of a more accurate way of discribing where it will be kept) In an attempt to keep the gun as compact and easy to manuver as possible should I give up that extra round and build it with a 18.5" barrel and a +2rd mag ext. Or should I pack as much ammo as possible and go with a 20" barrel and +3rd mag ext? Our house has no hallways to worry about having to turn around in though we do have a staircase. That is enclosed on both sides for the upper half.