No factory 9mm 124gr Flat Nose ammunition?

[quneur]

There is hard cast factory ammo in 380 acp and 38 special but none in 9mm in standard pressure (my gun manufacturer says don't shoot +p.) I want something light and concealable for mushroom foraging. There is 147gr FMJFP but velocities are usually subsonic. I want penetration rather than impact. Lots of brush. Next option is to go higher pressure calibers but open carry as my other guns are all heavy steel frames.

124gr because it would be a good compromise. Federal has Syntech but does it penetrates? Crickets from Federal. Looking for 124gr flat point/truncated cone or jacketed soft flat point in 9mm standard pressure factory ammo.

I ordered a couple of sample packs from https://thebluebullets.com/ and will be loading a few with CFE Pistol.

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[NeoBlackdog]

Try these.

124 Grain 9mm Bullets | Flat Nose Bullet | Reloading Bullets

Berry's 124 Grain 9mm bullets for reloading are flat nose bullets & can be bought in bulk. Shop our 9mm plated bullets for unbelievable accuracy!

www.berrysmfg.com

I've used Berry's for years in my .40's for range use and they've worked very well. The plated bullets can be loaded up to 1250 FPS.

 

[Benchrest]

I've used Blue Bullets, they're great but I wouldn't consider them hard cast (seems what you're asking for).

I'd look at (for components):

Montana Bullet Works https://www.montanabulletworks.com/product/9mm-lbt-130gr-sa/
Missouri https://missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=499&category=20&secondary=8&keywords=
Black Bullets https://blackbulletsinternational.com/shop/ols/products/9125gr
Summers https://summersenterprisesllc.com/product/hi-tek-9mm-356-122-gr-fpbb-nlg-500-ct-box/

or (loaded)

Underwood https://underwoodammo.com/9mm-luger...r-solid-monolithic-hunting-self-defense-ammo/

 

[Certaindeaf]

There is hard cast factory ammo in 380 acp and 38 special but none in 9mm in standard pressure (my gun manufacturer says don't shoot +p.) I want something light and concealable for mushroom foraging. There is 147gr FMJFP but velocities are usually subsonic. I want penetration rather than impact. Lots of brush. Next option is to go higher pressure calibers but open carry as my other guns are all heavy steel frames.

124gr because it would be a good compromise. Federal has Syntech but does it penetrates? Crickets from Federal. Looking for 124gr flat point/truncated cone or jacketed soft flat point in 9mm standard pressure factory ammo.

I ordered a couple of sample packs from https://thebluebullets.com/ and will be loading a few with CFE Pistol.

".lots of brush.." what do you foresee the reason for shooting brush?

 

[gmerkt]

9mm 124 Gr. RMR FMJ Truncated Cone Flat Point MatchWinner Bullets | RMR Bullets

RMR’s 9mm 124 Full Metal Jacket Flat Nose bullets. These bullets are made by us! Not only are these bullets winning matches all across the United States, the more of these you buy, the sooner we will be able to get more machines to make additional calibers!! These bullets are Made In The USA. They

www.rmrbullets.com

A jacketed bullet will give more penetration and handloaded can be fired at whatever velocity you choose.

 

[Nosferatu]

".lots of brush.." what do you foresee the reason for shooting brush?

Never had a rabid venus fly catcher protecting its seedlings come at ya, eh?

 

[JustShoot]

Try these.

124 Grain 9mm Bullets | Flat Nose Bullet | Reloading Bullets

Berry's 124 Grain 9mm bullets for reloading are flat nose bullets & can be bought in bulk. Shop our 9mm plated bullets for unbelievable accuracy!

www.berrysmfg.com

I've used Berry's for years in my .40's for range use and they've worked very well. The plated bullets can be loaded up to 1250 FPS.

BERRY'S 124, THICK-PLATE, Flat-Point,, is the only bullet I load on 9mm, and does not matter what 9mm I grab, it accurate.
Plus... Thick Plate = Higher Velocity ( if wanting ) to push it upwards above the 1250 fps.
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[quneur]

".lots of brush.." what do you foresee the reason for shooting brush?

Always fear the bush.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfjb2Wftj8

 

[Koda]

Looking for 124gr flat point/truncated cone or jacketed soft flat point in 9mm standard pressure factory ammo.

Not 124gn but is a flat point standard pressure designed specifically for deepest penetration. They have other options with this bullet type as well.

9mm Luger 115gr. Xtreme Penetrator® Solid Monolithic Hunting & Self Defense Ammo

Underwood Ammo offers the most comprehensive and innovative Lehigh Defense™ Supersonic Lead Free Handgun Ammo for personal defense & hunting. Shop now 9mm Luger Copper ammo with Solid Monolithic.

underwoodammo.com

I do have about 20rds of standard lead/copper FMJ flat nosed 9mm factory ammo I bought for target practice but cannot remember the brand... so they are out there. The case head only says W M A 2 2
I remember I saved these for hiking if I carried my compact 9mm since they had flat noses.

 

[Koda]

Looking for 124gr flat point/truncated cone or jacketed soft flat point in 9mm standard pressure factory ammo.

LAX Ammunition 9mm Luger 135 gr Round Nose Flat Point (RNFP) New 500 ct w/ FREE Ammo Can (Free Shipping! Orders $200 - $2000)

500 Rounds of LAX Ammunition 9mm Luger 135 gr Round Nose Flat Point (RNFP) New. Includes FREE ammo can! *Product images are for illustrative purposes only and may differ from the actual product

www.laxammo.com

Note: Ive had hit and miss quality issues with LAX/Freedom ammo. My latest 9mm order is plagued with random hard primers.

 

[Nosferatu]

LAX Ammunition 9mm Luger 135 gr Round Nose Flat Point (RNFP) New 500 ct w/ FREE Ammo Can (Free Shipping! Orders $200 - $2000)

500 Rounds of LAX Ammunition 9mm Luger 135 gr Round Nose Flat Point (RNFP) New. Includes FREE ammo can! *Product images are for illustrative purposes only and may differ from the actual product

www.laxammo.com

Note: Ive had hit and miss quality issues with LAX/Freedom ammo. My latest 9mm order is plagued with random hard primers.

Yeah, you know ammo is crap when it won't even work with my primer-murdering MPX!

 

[Koda]

Yeah, you know ammo is crap when it won't even work with my primer-murdering MPX!

Their prices were good and I liked the free ammo cans but Ive switched to ordering name brand ammo thru SGAmmo over their random QC issues.

 

[quneur]

Not 124gn but is a flat point standard pressure designed specifically for deepest penetration. They have other options with this bullet type as well.

9mm Luger 115gr. Xtreme Penetrator® Solid Monolithic Hunting & Self Defense Ammo

Underwood Ammo offers the most comprehensive and innovative Lehigh Defense™ Supersonic Lead Free Handgun Ammo for personal defense & hunting. Shop now 9mm Luger Copper ammo with Solid Monolithic.

underwoodammo.com

I do have about 20rds of standard lead/copper FMJ flat nosed 9mm factory ammo I bought for target practice but cannot remember the brand... so they are out there. The case head only says W M A 2 2
I remember I saved these for hiking if I carried my compact 9mm since they had flat noses.

I considered Underwood penetrators and G9 ammo. But I think hard cast will penetrate further giving equal targets. The flutes has to bleed some energy perpendicular to its path in order to create a wound channel. If flutes are put on cast bullets, I doubt it would penetrate as deep versus no flutes.

Lehigh should produce all copper (or hybrid mix like ARX) without flutes and with the same ballistics/loading for range/practice. I would buy those.

 

[Alexx1401]

Always fear the bush.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPfjb2Wftj8

Well he certainly got a LOT of people a good laugh, and proved a few have no sense of humor

 

[Koda]

I considered Underwood penetrators and G9 ammo. But I think hard cast will penetrate further giving equal targets. The flutes has to bleed some energy perpendicular to its path in order to create a wound channel. If flutes are put on cast bullets, I doubt it would penetrate as deep versus no flutes.

Lehigh should produce all copper (or hybrid mix like ARX) without flutes and with the same ballistics/loading for range/practice. I would buy those.

I'm not certain the difference in penetration is enough to worry about, but from what Ive seen tested the extreme penetrators have a slight lead in both penetration and wound channel. It might come down to how much one trusts the newer bullet technology and lighter faster bullets but I wouldnt hesitate to use the Underwood (I think G9s are all +P).

 

[NeoBlackdog]

Why flat nosed? Won't a round nosed bullet work just as well?

 

[Nosferatu]

Why flat nosed? Won't a round nosed bullet work just as well?

Ugly bullets need lovin' too!

 

[Koda]

Why flat nosed? Won't a round nosed bullet work just as well?

Round nose bullets deflect off bone where flat nosed bullets have an edge that grabs and cuts thru bone providing deeper penetration.

 

[WAYNO]

Penetration is important to me too. If the opportunity arose to use a 9mm carbine, for example, on a deer, (for discussion purposes only) FMJ is not legal. And I would not use an explosive hollow point.
Soft Points in 9mm are scarce, but they are my choice. Right now, S&B are the only 9mm soft points I find available. And they are what I carry.







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[quneur]

Penetration is important to me too. If the opportunity arose to use a 9mm carbine, for example, on a deer, (for discussion purposes only) FMJ is not legal. And I would not use an explosive hollow point.
Soft Points in 9mm are scarce, but they are my choice. Right now, S&B are the only 9mm soft points I find available. And they are what I carry.







.

That was one I missed. SB9S specifically: 124gr, 373 ft/lbs, SP. If it was a flat point, it would be perfect. I'm going to look for them now.