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And ignorance is 9/10 of the law!
pretty sure
And ignorance is 9/10 of the law!
pretty sure
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Never claimed I was quoting Webster's Dictionary definition. Yes, my "interpretation" and understanding of the definitions found in Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged 5th Ed., West Publishing Co. for Accidents (and there various forms) and Negligence (and its various forms).It's called individual interpretation of the definition of a word without knowing the true definition.
Of course, High speed low drag Operators don't make mistakes or have accidents. So the term Negligent Discharge was invented because it makes the person that discharged the gun sound like an untrained idiot.
Although in the OP story I'm gonna say this is accurate.
Never claimed I was quoting Webster's Dictionary definition. Yes, my "interpretation" and understanding of the definitions found in Black's Law Dictionary, Abridged 5th Ed., West Publishing Co. for Accidents (and there various forms) and Negligence (and its various forms).
heres a twist.
The only firearm accident thats not negligence is a slamfire, but only if the 4 rules were being followed.
There are firearms that have known instances of discharging without a trigger pull. Rem 700, Sig P320, others. I personally witnessed a Rem 700 discharge off the bench at the rifle club you and I shoot at when the shooter was operating the safety mechanism. Nowhere near the trigger, pointed downrange on a Lead Sled. Not a slam fire so according to your statement it was negligent?
No that would be an accident in the similar manner of the slamfire, out of the operators control.
Its worth noting though, that all the 4 rules of gun safety were being followed.
So yeah your right there are more instances of true accidents than just slamfires.
Accidents are going to happen, whether negligence was involved or not.
I had an AD once, never an ND.The military (or at least the Army) got away from using the term "Accidental Discharge" (AD) is such instances and went to calling it Negligent Discharge. Theory being, you train, practice, and are expected, as a professional Soldier, to manage your firearm at all times. Ergo you cannot have an accident.
Oddly enough, as I recall, most of our cases involved mishandling my MPs....who are responsible and handle weapons on an almost daily basis.Accidents are going to happen, whether negligence was involved or not. Humans are humans, nobody is perfect. There are thousands of cases of LE and military personnel, who have arguably the most and best training available still having NDs. The keyboard tough guys that rant and rave about more training or how they would NEVER EVER make a mistake are amusing.
But again, the OP story? What an idiot.
Bottom line is nobody cares if it was AD or ND unless someone dies, some injured, property damaged, or someone got the sh*t scared out of them.
...The AD came from a guy insisting I try his rifle at the range, so after he failed to take no thanks for an answer, I accepted the rifle (bolt), aimed downrange, and operated the bolt. The rifle immediately fired. The owner then said "oh, I've been working on the trigger, you have to close the bolt slower". I don't consider this an ND as such, although negligence on the part of the owner could be argued. Since it's not clearly an ND and I didn't intend to shoot quite yet, I consider this an AD...
Always wondered this myself. Is it a "car accident" or "driving negligence". Seems to me a bit of wordplay.
Well, first of all, Did the tree make a sound?I say the deer was negligent.
What is it called when the tree jumps out in front of your car?