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More lead I say! I think they need to take the SOST round and increase the weight to around 75 grains. Screw the hippies and their eco bull. Bring back the days of pouring used motor oil down the storm grate......ok maybe thats going too far.
I'd vote Hippy on the M855A1. The Marines have gone to a solid copper round (lead-free incidentally) but the Army is holding out for an eco "lead-free". Solid copper would have better penetration than the current jacketed rounds, IMO. But it seems the selection has been politicized to foster some eco-friendliness. Here's a link to a military news article: <broken link removed>
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"both of our M249s opened up instantly, forming a crisscross pattern of tracer that met at the vehicles engine compartment and windshield. Within seconds, riflemen and grenadiers were executing magazine changes while the vehicle kept rolling and finally stopped 10 meters from my lead troops," Gillis recalled in an e-mail to Army Times.
Wait wait wait....Are we talking about giving a crap what the hippies say when it comes to GUNS? Does no one else see the issue here? When I'm trying to punch big bloody holes in a screaming maniac/OPFOR target I'm certainly not worried about the environment or if he's gonna get lead poisoning.
Wait wait wait, I've gotta be missing something here.
Isn't lead a natural element that's found in nature anyways? Why is this such a big deal?
...So our military is using waterfowl for their training now, are they?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I HATE HIPPIES
...So our military is using waterfowl for their training now, are they?
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF I HATE HIPPIES
So any word yet?It's an interesting development, I don't know if it will be a panacea for all the "problems" the military keeps having with the standard M855 ball, however I do see it as a step in the right direction. I have a few of these on my desk I ordered as samples and need to do some testing with them, however I'm not a huge fan of sticking with the 62gr requirement the military seems to be obsessed with since the adoption of the SS109 bullet in the standard M855 ball.
As an abstract though, I think the SOST round (which still has a lead core) will likely provide the combat effectiveness the military is looking for. However, since it still has a lead core it doesn't meet the new "green" needs of the USMIL. We need bullets that kill the bad guys with as much mess as possible. The new M855A1 seems to be a rehash of WW1 bullet designs that used a bronze/steel tip to cause expansion of the bullet, the only difference here is it's a solid copper bullet.
I think my opinion is wait and see, if it doesn't pan out because of the "green" component, then hippy crap, if it proves itself to be a real killer in combat, then it's a winner. The limitation we're facing here is how much this ammunition is going to cost being made entirely out of copper. I would much rather see the US switch over to a steel composite bullet with a copper jacket to make it easier on the bore.