M855 Ammo Ban

[bnsaibum]

There is also this angle to consider...

Focusing on M855 Is Missing the ATF's Ultimate Intent

 

[Stomper]

You must be extra Stomper special cuz my BiMart limits the sale to 100rnds.

 

[jjackffrost]

Obama is still the best Ammo sells person out there

 

[U8395279]

You're killing me! LMAO, Biden in the jester's get up!!

I think that would be the only position in a Royal Court that Biden would be qualified to fill!

 

[Dave Workman]

CCRKBA letter to ATF chief blasts proposed ammo ban

Noting that the proposed ban of popular M855 ammunition for modern sport-utility rifles has raised concerns and created a fury among gun owners, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms late yesterday sent a letter to B. Todd Jones, director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, opposing the plan.


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[Member 5605]

There is also this angle to consider...

Focusing on M855 Is Missing the ATF's Ultimate Intent

The term that keeps reoccuring is:

likely use

What else is "Likely Use"d improperly. Well, your car can likely be used in a robbery, your house can likely be used as a meth lab, your dog can likely be used as a pillow.. the list goes on and on for "improper" usage- nevermind the illegal implications of some things. Once again a solution to a nonexistent problem.

 

[Dave Workman]

And then the other shoe started dropping:

SAF warns of legal action if .223 ammo ban implemented

First came the grassroots anger, and then members of Congress wrote to the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives urging him to back off from a proposal to ban popular .223-caliber M855 "green tip" ammunition, and today, the Second Amendment Foundation is warning of probable legal action if the ban is implemented.


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[Stomper]

The crappy part is that the sitting apaparatchicks in the alphabet agencies don't give a flying rip about lawsuits getting filed as they have the bottomless well of taxpayer money to fund a defense against said lawsuits.... As a taxpayer there's NOTHING like have your money that's been confiscated from your paycheck (before you even get it) and having it used against you by your own government!

 

[bellarum]

Sounds to me like the "bulletproof vest" manufacturers need to step up their game and stop blaming the ammo they claim cant be stopped.

 

[Bigfoot]

Which rifle calibers are chambered in TC pistols, Rem 600 pistols, Savage Striker pistols? More calibers than not I if I know gun loonies. 243 through 300 Win Mag, I know of 45/70, possibly beyond that. And they would all penetrate a vest I assume.

Whew, for a sec there I thought this would give precedent to banning all hunting rifle ammo.

 

[Brutus57]

The government will soon declare it's independence from the people.

The underlying reason for this is to tilt the playing field more towards those who might one day go for the full 2a repeal enchilada.... Make no mistake, this is calculated by these progressive anti constitutionalists.

Brutus out

 

[americanredoubt]

Right on Brutus.

In response I submit this:
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." --Henry Kissinger
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The underlying reason for this is too tilt the playing field more towards those who might one go for the full 2a repeal enchilada.... Make no mistake, this is calculated by these progressive anti constitutionalists.

Brutus out

 

[U8395279]

Which rifle calibers are chambered in TC pistols, Rem 600 pistols, Savage Striker pistols? More calibers than not I if I know gun loonies. 243 through 300 Win Mag, I know of 45/70, possibly beyond that. And they would all penetrate a vest I assume.

Whew, for a sec there I thought this would give precedent to banning all hunting rifle ammo.

Apparently BATF does not consider single shot pistols to be a threat, as they are talking about making an exemption for rifle calibers that are available only in single shot pistols, and not other types of pistols. Or at least for now they don't seem to want to include single shot handguns.

But it is all part of a death by a thousand cuts strategy, much like what was done to gun owners in England.

When handguns were finally totally outlawed in the UK, the only pistols that could be legally owned at that point were 22 rimfire competition target shooting handguns. And they had to be stored and locked up at the shooting range, and could not be taken home by their owners.

To the fanatical true believers in gun control, even that insane amount of restrictions were not enough. They could only be satisfied by a total and complete ban, with no exceptions.

It was really quite crazy how the liberals in the Parliament celebrated passage of the new legislation. For as one other legislator noted, all the law accomplished was to make it impossible for British marksmen to practice to compete in International Pistol Shooting events. It did nothing else.

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[U8395279]

The interview of the NRA's Wayne LaPierre last night on the Lou Dobbs show about this ban was really outstanding.

I have to fully agree with LaPierre's interpretation of this move. If Obama can set the bar so low as to ban M855 ammo, then if that ammo is deemed bad, one can easily argue that all popular big game hunting ammunition is dangerous to police officers.

I sometimes cringe when LaPierre speaks, but he did a good job last night. You can see a video of this entire interview on the Lou Dobbs web page for the Fox Business Channel:

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[PrDubi]

They need to get the ball rolling and ban all ammo. That's when reset happens.

 

[blackadder]

They need to get the ball rolling and ban all ammo. That's when reset happens.

They aren't that dumb

 

[U8395279]

They aren't that dumb

Exactly. I am becoming worried about our government. It is doing so many things that just seem so un-American. And many others that just make no sense at all.

 

[U8395279]

Here is that graphic that LaPierre showed on Lou Dobbs last night:

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If a 5.56mm is a danger to law enforcement, what danger does a 300 Win Mag pose??

It was the preferred round that Chris Kyle used to rack up so many kills.

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[U8395279]

Probably in another six months someone in the ATF will exclaim: "OMG, an AR-10 in 7.62 NATO is even more dangerous to law enforcement than the M855 ammo in an AR-15!"

No doubt, they will then move to close that "Loophole".

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[Bigfoot]

They don't have to make new law. Just allow some friendly manufacturer to make pistol versions of Saigas just like a AK pistols except they shoot the entire range of rifle calibers. 223 through 9x53R.

Or an AR10 pistol.

Or a pistol easily based on a Browning BAR, 243 through 338. Sell a couple to fellow travelers..done.