Lighten the hell up and lets talk guns again!!!

[DB is Here]

Whats it going on?

Oops, I misread that. It's going on a "Noveske Carbine Lite 14.5" made by Rainier Arms back in 2011.

 

[2DaMtns]

The glock 20 and the glock 40 (assuming you are truly meaning the 10mm longslide) use the same magazines, they have the same frames and the only difference is the slide, so yes they are interchangeable with magazines.

I do mean the Glock model 40, not a Glock chambered in .40 S&W. I think I was thinking the grip length was a little longer on the 40 and 20 mags wouldn't seat. Obviously a factory 29 mag won't fit, so maybe that's what I was thinking. Regardless, thanks to all for confirming my suspicion.

 

[deadeye]

OK OK lets stir up the nest!

WHY is a Glock (cough) so darn expensive compared to others? Nothing against them personally except they just don't feel/ point well for my hands. I always liked the feel of a S&W Sigma, gen 2 and the SDVE never had an issue with any of them. The S&W M&P even feels/shoots better for me. Ive had a few Glocks over the years from trading when trading didn't involve the gov., miss those days......but that's another topic, always ended up getting rid of them.

If you can hold off with the pitchforks and tar and feathers for a bit longer think about it. Does a Glock really take any more work to produce a plastic injected frame, machined slide and some misc. little springs and stamped out or molded lil parts? Sure we can talk about bad triggers and all but is that really a cost issue or is it a design issue? I have no problem with the trigger on most of mentioned pistols because they are after all a self defense pistol NOT a range pistol. If you use one for self defense as designed are you really even going to notice a slightly heavier trigger or a longer pull with the adrenalin level?

I can afford a Glock but why pay the price when there are a myriad of other options that do the same thing and are built the same. I guess if they can sell them for what they do they don't feel they need to sell them at a competitive price. Maybe if they didn't have so many government agencies spending tax dollars on their products they'd be a little more competitively priced.

OK I've said my peace and ready to meet my maker now.......

 

[CamoDeafie]

OK OK lets stir up the nest!

WHY is a Glock (cough) so darn expensive compared to others? Nothing against them personally except they just don't feel/ point well for my hands. I always liked the feel of a S&W Sigma, gen 2 and the SDVE never had an issue with any of them. The S&W M&P even feels/shoots better for me. Ive had a few Glocks over the years from trading when trading didn't involve the gov., miss those days......but that's another topic, always ended up getting rid of them.

If you can hold off with the pitchforks and tar and feathers for a bit longer think about it. Does a Glock really take any more work to produce a plastic injected frame, machined slide and some misc. little springs and stamped out or molded lil parts? Sure we can talk about bad triggers and all but is that really a cost issue or is it a design issue? I have no problem with the trigger on most of mentioned pistols because they are after all a self defense pistol NOT a range pistol. If you use one for self defense as designed are you really even going to notice a slightly heavier trigger or a longer pull with the adrenalin level?

I can afford a Glock but why pay the price when there are a myriad of other options that do the same thing and are built the same. I guess if they can sell them for what they do they don't feel they need to sell them at a competitive price. Maybe if they didn't have so many government agencies spending tax dollars on their products they'd be a little more competitively priced.

OK I've said my peace and ready to meet my maker now.......

Brand marketing. Are Levis 501 jeans more expensive to make than Wrangler jeans? Nah. Its all brand marketing. Same for Nike Airs versus Reeboks

Gun related, Colt ARs versus original Armalites and some Bushmasters

 

[American123]

OK OK lets stir up the nest!

WHY is a Glock (cough) so darn expensive compared to others? Nothing against them personally except they just don't feel/ point well for my hands. I always liked the feel of a S&W Sigma, gen 2 and the SDVE never had an issue with any of them. The S&W M&P even feels/shoots better for me. Ive had a few Glocks over the years from trading when trading didn't involve the gov., miss those days......but that's another topic, always ended up getting rid of them.

If you can hold off with the pitchforks and tar and feathers for a bit longer think about it. Does a Glock really take any more work to produce a plastic injected frame, machined slide and some misc. little springs and stamped out or molded lil parts? Sure we can talk about bad triggers and all but is that really a cost issue or is it a design issue? I have no problem with the trigger on most of mentioned pistols because they are after all a self defense pistol NOT a range pistol. If you use one for self defense as designed are you really even going to notice a slightly heavier trigger or a longer pull with the adrenalin level?

I can afford a Glock but why pay the price when there are a myriad of other options that do the same thing and are built the same. I guess if they can sell them for what they do they don't feel they need to sell them at a competitive price. Maybe if they didn't have so many government agencies spending tax dollars on their products they'd be a little more competitively priced.

OK I've said my peace and ready to meet my maker now.......

I can add a anecdotal opinion to the pot and that is when I am out at the range with other people who are not using Glocks and they have a fail to fire I can put that same round most of the time into my Glock and it will go bang. But if we really want to get into the cost I'm sure a lot of it has to do with simply supply and demand they seemingly don't have a problem with selling their product at the price they offer it so why sell it for cheaper.

 

[DB is Here]

WHY is a Glock (cough) so darn expensive compared to others?

Perfection ain't cheap.....

 

[MTpockets]

This!! I have no desire to try to hit even 200 with iron sights. Mainly because I don't have to

Coming from someone trained in indirect-fire.


Was wondering if a 25MOA optics mount would be enough for this one.

 

[CamoDeafie]

From somewhere else... @11Charlie

 

[11Charlie]

Makes things simpler when it's minute of square blocks

 

[sobo]

Makes things simpler when it's minute of square blocks

I know where there's 6 of 'em you can target...

Hey, I'm still talking about guns!

 

[deadeye]

I can add a anecdotal opinion to the pot and that is when I am out at the range with other people who are not using Glocks and they have a fail to fire I can put that same round most of the time into my Glock and it will go bang. But if we really want to get into the cost I'm sure a lot of it has to do with simply supply and demand they seemingly don't have a problem with selling their product at the price they offer it so why sell it for cheaper.

Hence why I mentioned the gov. sales fueled with never ending tax dollars. Kinda like the $400 hammers and toilet seats and other such gov. purchases. I'm just old school and want to know my money is being spent wisely. I'd rather drive a $30,000 Ford or whatever VS a $80,000 Audi/ Mercedes they both get me to point a or b and the Ford is cheaper to get fixed as well and most likely last longer.

 

[11Charlie]

I know where there's 6 you can target...

Hey, I'm still talking about guns!

We aren't going there in this thread

 

[DB is Here]

I'd rather drive a $30,000 Ford or whatever

Ah, your a HiPoint Man then...cool.

 

[sobo]

We aren't going there in this thread

I know, but the set-up you provided could not be ignored...

 

[deadeye]

Perfection ain't cheap.....

and that's why I'm not cheap, I might be easy but not cheap.

 

[Heyjoe]

Sks or marlin 336 for a California vacation?

Go

 

[deadeye]

Ah, your a HiPoint Man then...cool.

Nah

 

[XoXSciFiGuy]

Ever wonder how long you can leave a cap and ball revolver loaded and it will still shoot? So do I. I'm going to find out this coming weekend. I have a camping trip planned for the Olympics starting Saturday and going until the following Tuesday.

In my home office drawer, I have my 1851 Colt Navy (36 cal. Pietta) ready to go and it's been loaded for over two months. Caps, powder, ball, even the Bore Butter at the end of the cylinders. We will see...and I will do a short video on it while I'm out there. Stock picture below, and one of the actual. Cylinder under the hammer is not loaded, for safety. Bet it pops off all five without a hitch.

 

[tac]

Started working on my gun wall.
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Looks like you need to begin with the plastering.........

 

[tac]

If they are really ugly, my grandma calls those "double baggers" - which is hilarious to hear out of a little old lady.

Ah, but do you know about the 'wolf' date?