Lever action 30-30 reloading advice?

[orygun]

Besides the primer contact issue, would you be able to load them short enough to cycle properly?

With the double cannelure on these 150's, they would probably be short enough. I was trying to remember, but I think it's the 300 Savage that uses a high cannelure to keep the round short. That's probably what these were for.

 

[ageingstudent]

With the double cannelure on these 150's, they would probably be short enough. I was trying to remember, but I think it's the 300 Savage that uses a high cannelure to keep the round short. That's probably what these were for.

It is...always looking for something that won't seat way down in the case for mine. Not only a higher cannelure, but also a shorter bullet is better.

 

[DeanMk]

i have 3 lever action 30-30s 2-94s and a glenfield 30a. ive reloded a ton of round nose for them.

a while back, a close buddy whos grandpa passed had some old 150gr winchester silvertip projectiles. he inherited them and ended up giving them to me along with an old box of 170gr silvertips(its full and unlikely to be shot)

my question(maybe a silly one)is, do these look safe to load in a 30-30 with a tube fed magazine? as you can see in my pics below, the 150 vs the 170 has a smaller point on it.

was thinkin puttin these over some BLC2
or if its not safe for 30-30 just stickin'm back on my shelf some guys were saying these pills go for $1/per which sounds outrageous to me. lol.
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all the info i can find online is for the new nosler/winchester ballistic silvertips and doesnt help.

what do ya think?

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You could load them and then just make sure they're the first cartridge in the chamber...FWIW though, my dad picked up a few boxes of Federal 150 gr. Hi-Shok cartridges in the 70's when he got his 94 and the tip on those are literally the same size as the primer and I spent years in the wood with 6 or 7 of those crammed in the tube of my 94 (eventually I ended up just hunting with 3 in the tube an one in the chamber. My brother's idea. Quicker to load/unload, it makes the gun lighter to pack around, and, he figures if he can't hit the deer within 3 shots he's got no business being out in the woods. Smart guy, my brother).
Silvertip's a good bullet...be a shame if you just left them on the shelf.


Dean

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

You could load them and then just make sure they're the first cartridge in the chamber...FWIW though, my dad picked up a few boxes of Federal 150 Hi-Shok cartridges in the 70's when he got his 94 and the tip on those are literally the same size as the primer and I spent years in the wood with 6 or 7 of those crammed in the tube of my 94 (eventually I ended up just hunting with 3 in the tube an one in the chamber. My brother's idea. Quicker to load/unload, it makes the gun lighter to pack around, and, he figures if he can't hit the deer within 3 shots he's got no business being out in the woods. Smart guy, my brother).
Silvertip's a good bullet...be a shame if you just left them on the shelf.


Dean

thanks for the input, i actually took a coyote a few years back with one of these bullets i loaded into a 300blk. they are a nice hunting bullet. oldschool but good as any IMO.

 

[DeanMk]

Yeah, right up there with the good ol' Core-Lokt,

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

Yeah, right up there with the good ol' Core-Lokt,

im a firm believer in corelokts. all i ever used before i started handloading!

just ask @Stomper about'm

he'll show and tell!!

 

[DeanMk]

Before he died, Dad was gifted a box of 180 grainers and he loaded up a bunch of spent shells. Gave a bunch to the friend who gave him the bullets and kept a few for himself.
Round noses, kinda worried about having them in the mag, so I just made sure it was the first one in the chamber.
Flame out of the barrel must've been a couple of feet! No signs of excessive pressure, though. Just a heavy hitter.


Dean

 

[Stomper]

im a firm believer in corelokts. all i ever used before i started handloading!

just ask @Stomper about'm

he'll show and tell!!

You mad, bro?

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

You mad, bro?

nah just waitin for you to make your deer pics your permanent signature LOL

 

[amusicman2]

I'd be interested in doing some trading for a few of those 150gr for my 30-40 Krag. I live in the Salem area.

 

[Johnny Tremain]

my question(maybe a silly one)is, do these look safe to load in a 30-30 with a tube fed magazine? as you can see in my pics below, the 150 vs the 170 has a smaller point on it.

Nope, those were made for bolt action 30-30s

 

[Deavis]

I'd like to see a PSA with pointed bullets loaded in a 30/30 and fired on video.

Mythbusters or Demolition Ranch perhaps

 

[RVTECH]

I Discuss 30-30 loading on another forum and have suggested the following load for any 30-30 enthusiast. It is 12 grains of Unique behind the Speer 100 grain 'Plinker' bullet. It's a soft shooting round but chronos at about 1700 FPS and is incredibly accurate. (See pic of 3 shot 50 yard group)
I wouldn't call it a 'deer' round but for varmints and the like it does well. Seat the jacket about 1/32" above the rim of the case and COLLET crimp - not roll.

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

I Discuss 30-30 loading on another forum and have suggested the following load for any 30-30 enthusiast. It is 12 grains of Unique behind the Speer 100 grain 'Plinker' bullet. It's a soft shooting round but chronos at about 1700 FPS and is incredibly accurate. (See pic of 3 shot 50 yard group)
I wouldn't call it a 'deer' round but for varmints and the like it does well. Seat the jacket about 1/32" above the rim of the case and COLLET crimp - not roll.

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i have those ingredients! i think i'll go make some!

 

[RVTECH]

i have those ingredients! i think i'll go make some!

Let me know what you think.
I started using this load when i got my 1899 mod 94 because I did not want to use typical 30-30 loadings for it and found they were very accurate out of my more modern 94s.

 

[DeanMk]

RVTECH,

In case you're interested, a 100 gr. bullet moving at 1700 ft./sec. makes just shy of 642 ft./lbs. of energy.
You say it isn't a deer round, but a .44-40, fired from a '73 Winchester made about the same amount of energy.
I suppose you could try it as the chambered round in your rifle and back it up with some factory rounds, or stronger handloads, in the tube.


Dean

 

[jbett98]

Hornady Flex tip bullets are available for reloading.

 

[DeanMk]

The Leverevolution powder is, too.

 

[RVTECH]

In case you're interested, a 100 gr. bullet moving at 1700 ft./sec. makes just shy of 642 ft./lbs. of energy.
You say it isn't a deer round, but a .44-40, fired from a '73 Winchester made about the same amount of energy.

Yes I am aware of this but I wouldn't use this load unless I was forced to. 100 grain is a little light for deer in a 30-30 but they certainly get killed with less.
If I were going to hunt with a 30-30 there are plenty of good bullet/powder combos to load with that put it up to factory (or better) ballistics.

 

[DeanMk]

Very true, RVTECH, but when your average blacktail is 90-100 lbs. and a ton of guys have been taking them for years with a .243 tossing bullets weighing about the same, its not out of the realm of possibility to use that round...and as accurate as you say it is, is just a plus in my book.
However, as you say, there's a plethora of loads on the market you can pick up at a great price point that exhibit much higher performance ballistics.


Dean