Not without a clearer photo. But it doesn't appear that the pistol is completely seated. It almost looks like you can see a decent amount of the bottom of the trigger guard. I may be wrong. It's hard to see with the grainy dark colors.
As much as I don't like YM, this video presents some valuable information about this incident.
does YM stand for yankee marshall? if so I will never open that. Nobody can say his dealings on this site without getting potentially sued but there are memebers on here that say they would SSS over it so that should tell you the gravity of it.
bubblegum that! I will never watch that (can't say his unbelievably haeiness offense here) but let's say if he were in prison he would be the most hated and disrespected in there. Please don't post any more of his videos. There are poeple here willing to SSS over what he did (not talking about me, quoting other posters in the past).
The Yankee Marshal video posted by @Certaindeaf shows some very interesting kinetics... The gun is riding pretty high in the officer's holster (as noted by @1775usmc ) before he bends down to pick up the perp's legs. Then, as he rises up, his gun is hooked by/jams into the adjacent officer's duty belt and the gun discharges. Immediately after the gun's discharge, one can see that the officer's gun is now lodged much further down into the holster. This implies that the gun was not properly holstered at the beginning of the leg sweep, and by jamming into the adjacent officer's duty belt, if there was something in the trigger guard area of the holster, it could have gotten jacked up with the gun's trigger. Looks like poor gun handling to me, as I have said previously...
As I said, I don't like YM much, but I did suffer through the video.
Which is why you will not find one in my collection...To be fair I do not like Clocks either. Any gun that requires the operator to pull the trigger to field strip is a definite no-go in my line of thinking.
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The department reviewed the issue, then went out to buy Glocks. I think we have a determination there…
. If they had found a 1/2 eaten pork rind in the officer's holster, they probably would not have been dumping all the Sigs.
What are you suggesting? That I am immune to NDs? Cuz that's not what I said.
Sort of The hammer test, but that's kind of flawed for obvious reason. There have been over 100 reports the problem with most is that people are drawing the gun, so the presumption is they pulled the trigger.
Incident happened on Monday, and the investigation is already over and done with??? Wow, I only wish Congress could get to the bottom of shiit that fast...The department reviewed the issue, then went out to buy Glocks. I think we have a determination there…
To say that having something else in the holster "doesn't fly anymore" is a pretty pompous position to take...
Fairly weighed??? Again, please cite an adjudicated court case where it was definitively determined that it was the gun's fault for discharging "on its own".
Ummm. OK.
The Church of P320 Spontaneous Combustion ?The Yankee Marshal video posted by @Certaindeaf shows some very interesting kinetics... The gun is riding pretty high in the officer's holster (as noted by @1775usmc ) before he bends down to pick up the perp's legs. Then, as he rises up, his gun is hooked by/jams into the adjacent officer's duty belt and the gun discharges. Immediately after the gun's discharge, one can see that the officer's gun is now lodged much further down into the holster. This implies that the gun was not properly holstered at the beginning of the leg sweep, and by jamming into the adjacent officer's duty belt, if there was something in the trigger guard area of the holster, it could have gotten jacked up with the gun's trigger. Looks like poor gun handling to me, as I have said previously...
But I'm willing to wait for the investigation to come out, which obviously could not have been completed yet. But there sure as shiit are a lot of people on this thread who have already finished their investigation and hung the guilty party...
.As I said, I don't like YM much, but I did suffer through the video.
Just a question... if Yankee Marshal cured cancer, would you still hate him? Asking for a friend...
Precisely. As I said, the gun won't fire on it's own. However, I never claimed that I am above the possibility of committing an ND (note I do not call it an AD). You seek to conflate two very different scenarios. I would have thought you could have understood the difference...
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Yawn
Yup, the first two videos are 5+ years old, back when the trigger VUP was just getting started, so those vids mighta been topical then, but certainly aren't now.
