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lashing, prison sentence for girl that had camera phone at school

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by clearconscience, Jan 24, 2010.

  1. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    I think every teenager in America should read this.



    RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – A teenage girl has been sentenced to a 90-lash flogging and two months in prison as punishment for assaulting a teacher, a Saudi judge said in an interview published Sunday.

    Human rights group Amnesty International said the assault happened after the girl was caught with a camera phone at school.

    The teenager's name was not immediately available. She could be spared with a pardon from King Abdullah, said Judge Riyadh al-Meihdib.

    "The verdict was read out to her at the court and she did not object," al-Meihdib told Al-Watan, a national Saudi daily newspaper.

    He said the teacher refused to forgive the girl, who will not appeal the case. Camera phones are banned at the school.

    Al-Watan quoted the school headmaster describing the girl as "about twenty" years old.

    However, Amnesty said the girl is 13.

    In a statement Friday, the London-based rights watchdog urged Abdullah to "intervene immediately to ensure that the flogging sentence is rescinded."

    "He must also take steps to reform Saudi Arabian law and criminal procedure to ban the use of cruel, inhuman and degrading punishment, in particular floggings of children," Amnesty interim Secretary General Claudio Cordone said.

    Judge al-Meihdib said his court will issue instructions to local authorities in Jubail to carry out the sentence within two days.
     
  2. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    Stuff like this is SOP over there.

    I'm afraid that all coming to my mind is "who cares?".
     
  3. MarkSBG

    MarkSBG Beaverton Oregon Well-Known Member

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    A flogging for assault? Not ok, but not as bad as the title (flogging for cell phone) implies...
     
  4. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Break the rules, take the punishment. Girl should have known better right? I mean seriously, why start the uproar when she was at fault in the first place.
     
  5. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    Please tell me you're kidding! So you'd be OK with your child receiving 90 lashes for having a cell phone in her possession at school if that were the school's rules? The punishment hardly fits the crime.

    My wife lived in Saudi Arabia for a couple of years and from what she has told me even with all their wealth, they are a backward country. More educated than most countries in the Middle East, but still a religious autocracy.

    I'm not saying she shouldn't be punished for breaking the rules. Suspension or even expulsion may have been appropriate, but 90 lashes? Come on!
     
  6. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    I'm deadly serious. Are you the kind of person who is ok with unrepentant murderers being locked up in a big house where they're fed and housed on your dime for 20 years to life? Or worse yet, set free on legal technicalities? I don't agree with the methodology, just the logic; break the rules and get punished.

    To take it further; If those convicted of murder are sentenced to getting a bullet in the face by one of the victim's family members, how many people are going to continue to commit such a crime(in a premeditated fashion at least)? If it was a mistake then she should be given a minor punishment, if it was intentional and she snuck it in despite the rules then she earned her reward.
     
  7. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    The crimes are hardly comparable. I hesitated to even dignify this with a response.
     
  8. darkminstrel

    darkminstrel PDX Well-Known Member

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    Of course they aren't comparable. But they're both crimes under the dictum that a crime equates to a breaking of established rules. Severity is moot when the path is the same. I never said I agreed with the girl getting lashes. I DO agree that she is punished for being a twit and breaking a rule then assaulting a teacher.
     
  9. speelyei

    speelyei Willamette Valley Active Member

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    darkminstrel must work for TSA.
     
  10. usmc0311

    usmc0311 Portland Member

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    Really? Severity is moot when the path is the same? So by that logic, if the law stated that the punishment for violating the speed limit was to have a hand chopped off, you would be ok with that? I mean, according to what your saying, breaking the law is breaking the law, right?

    Ever hear of cruel and unusual?
     
  11. pokerace

    pokerace Newberg Well-Known Member

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    And that's why there still in the stone age!!!
     
  12. Cougfan2

    Cougfan2 Hillsboro, OR Well-Known Member

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    My wife lived in Jidah back in the late 60's in the American compound. When trash day came around, you didn't put your trash bin at the curb for the garbage truck, you threw it over the back wall of the compound into the alley for the "goat lady". If you had stuff in your trash that the goats didn't like she would curse at you. :laugh: