"Large" ammo purchase suspicious?

[RX-79G]

::::Maybe for the same reason he reported him - that he seemed threatening and nuts.::::
A gun store isnt really the place to "seem threatening and nuts". At least not around where I live. Having worked in the field myself, I've seen how these things can go down, especially after the DA's office gets hold of it.. it being NYS, I'm even more suspicious--- The SBR is a federal crime, where were the federales? "Large capacity magazines"... guess those are illegal in NYS too.. Face it, buying ammo every week isnt- or shouldnt be- a crime.
"Home-made" rifles don't need a serial# unless they are sold. Sounds like a crock of bullsh*t to me. But then, it IS New York...

SBRs are controlled by WA and OR law.


I would say that no one should fail to be wary of nutjobs. They aren't afraid of your gun, and it isn't a force field.

 

[RX-79G]

When the mental gymnastics fail, try the long jump!

If everyone is innocent, what is there to report or investigate? No police needed on your planet

 

[RX-79G]

That's the pro gun-control talking point, but ridiculous on it's face. Regulating and restricting the rights of law abiding citizens does ZERO to prevent criminals from criminaling. I'm sure your argument will be that he "was" a criminal for having an unregistered SBR, but that's ignoring the fact that making laws against things that were historically lawful... making otherwise law abiding people into criminals... so they can be branded and prosecuted as such... having committed no actual crime against any person or property with their firearm... is fantasy land type "logic".

In your world, you obviously think that statement sounds "reasonable" but it's based on the false premise.... "gun control prevents crime".

Gun control has nothing to do with crime prevention.... simply "control".

Sounds good in the press though to create derision toward firearm owners though... doesn't it!

In your world, longer prison sentences solve crime. Except they don't.

I live in a society where people look out for each other instead of saying "not my problem", because sooner or later it becomes your problem.


This guy didn't get reported or investigated for just buying boolits. Rural NY is not liberal.

 

[GWS]

In your world, longer prison sentences solve crime. Except they don't.

I live in a society where people look out for each other instead of saying "not my problem", because sooner or later it becomes your problem.


This guy didn't get reported or investigated for just buying boolits. Rural NY is not liberal.

Are you suggesting that the criminal in jail is still committing crimes in the community outside the jail? Still jacking cars or robbing citizens?

 

[raftman]

If everyone is innocent, what is there to report or investigate? No police needed on your planet.

Lol what? You can't just make up what I've said to pretend to hold the more reasonable position by comparison.

 

[Flopsweat]

Lol what? You can't just make up what I've said to pretend to hold the more reasonable position by comparison.

I mean, it's never stopped him before.

 

[stompah]

I think the SBR is a federal issue. The article isn't very clear on exactly what the charges were in that regard.

From the article: Ivestigators were led to Duane Hollenbeck's camp in Pitcher, Chenango County, after a concerned gun retailer reported Alec Hollenbeck making large purchases of ammunition weekly for more than a month, prosecutors said in a criminal complaint in federal court.

If he lived in a free state then it's very likely his local gun shop owner wouldnt have taken noticed. But when you live in a state where every round is one round too many...

 

[RX-79G]

Are you suggesting that the criminal in jail is still committing crimes in the community outside the jail? Still jacking cars or robbing citizens?

No. They are preparing to go from a minor criminal with a non-life sentence to a more effective and dangerous criminal after their education.

 

[RX-79G]

Lol what? You can't just make up what I've said to pretend to hold the more reasonable position by comparison.

What you said was absurd. Clearly everyone isn't innocent, but they are treated as such in the legal system. That doesn't mean you have to pretend they are too.

This is a concept people clearly misunderstand, like free speech.

 

[Yarome]

In your world, longer prison sentences solve crime. Except they don't.

You're right! I live in reality... where the recidivism rate in the U.S. is nearly 45% within the first year and over 60% within 3 years of release. And those are only the crimes they actually get caught and convicted for. Longer sentences absolutely DO help prevent crime. To a smaller degree, they also act as a greater deterrent.

Your contrary contention is what? If you lock up a criminal... someone else will simply step up and commit the same crime they would have in their place??

 

[raftman]

What you said was absurd. Clearly everyone isn't innocent, but they are treated as such in the legal system. That doesn't mean you have to pretend they are too.

This is a concept people clearly misunderstand, like free speech.

No. What I said isn't absurd; what you claim I said is absurd… and it needs to be because it seems to be the only way you seem to be able to cope with being wrong.

 

[Flopsweat]

You're right! I live in reality... where the recidivism rate in the U.S. is nearly 45% within the first year and over 60% within 3 years of release. And those are only the crimes they actually get caught and convicted for. Longer sentences absolutely DO help prevent crime. To a smaller degree, they also act as a greater deterrent.

Your contrary contention is what? If you lock up a criminal... someone else will simply step up and commit the same crime they would have in their place??

I don't even have to log out to figure out what that twit was saying. So predictable.

 

[RX-79G]

You're right! I live in reality... where the recidivism rate in the U.S. is nearly 45% within the first year and over 60% within 3 years of release. And those are only the crimes they actually get caught and convicted for. Longer sentences absolutely DO help prevent crime. To a smaller degree, they also act as a greater deterrent.

Your contrary contention is what? If you lock up a criminal... someone else will simply step up and commit the same crime they would have in their place??

You mean like the fatherless sons of the incarcerated that end up in the gangs fueled by "law abiding" drug abusers? Yes, they will be replaced.

But that is entirely aside from the fact that you can't lock someone up for life for shoplifting.

 

[RX-79G]

No. What I said isn't absurd; what you claim I said is absurd… and it needs to be because it seems to be the only way you seem to be able to cope with being wrong.

Huh?

 

[Yarome]

You mean like the fatherless sons of the incarcerated that end up in the gangs fueled by "law abiding" drug abusers? Yes, they will be replaced.

Friggin hilarious! I've never quite heard the argument that leaving criminals alone to criminal, allow more victims and lives to be lost as a viable solution to fatherless households. After all, the damages to others lives really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things, right!

And what great examples stoned out, morally corrupt and abusive fathers are for the nations youth during their impressionable years.

You've SOLVED it!!

 

[Flopsweat]

Friggin hilarious! I've never quite heard the argument that leaving criminals alone to criminal, allow more victims and lives to be lost as a viable solution to fatherless households. After all, the damages to others lives really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things, right!

And what great examples stoned out, morally corrupt and abusive fathers are for the nations youth during their impressionable years.

You've SOLVED it!!

Mazda Muppet .

 

[RX-79G]

Friggin hilarious! I've never quite heard the argument that leaving criminals alone to criminal, allow more victims and lives to be lost as a viable solution to fatherless households. After all, the damages to others lives really isn't all that important in the grand scheme of things, right!

And what great examples stoned out, morally corrupt and abusive fathers are for the nations youth during their impressionable years.

You've SOLVED it!!

Where did I say criminals should be let out of jail to raise their kids? That isn't what you asked, and it isn't what I replied.

Read what is written, not what you think was written.

 

[raftman]

Read what is written, not what you think was written….

Rich piece of advice considering the source!

 

[American123]

I had a UPS guy tell a person who was receiving packages for me that he was a "dangerous man" because there was a lot of ORM-D packages showing up and the UPS guy said, "I know what those are, man!"

The "turn in your neighbor, your friend, or even your family" types are out there. In fact, there's a specific political party that encourages it, and they also support fascist acts. The parallels of history are sickening.

 

[MTpockets]