If it weren't for the .40 S&W..

[Kruel J]

It's a weaving path. But I forgive all the growing pains.

Without all the for mentioned calibers. I would not have the best. .357 sig!

.357 Sig?? LOL talk about a dead caliber! It's 6 feet under while the .40 is still digging the hole!

 

[WAYNO]

No, the rhetorical short and wimpy should never apply to the 40 S&W. It has its place, and for a relatively tiny cartridge, that can be used in a tiny little gun, I can think of no other cartridge in such a small package that can compare.

 

[Medic!]

10mm FTW. 40 Short and Wimpy needs to go away.

Funny you should say that?
Most all the factory 10mm is loaded to .40 specs.

And since the .40 is available in a lighter smaller frame gun. Maybe it's the 10 mm that's gone away?

 

[Kruel J]

Funny you should say that?
Most all the factory 10mm is loaded to .40 specs.

And since the .40 is available in a lighter smaller frame gun. Maybe it's the 10 mm that's gone away?

Now you're just making s*** up.

 

[Medic!]

.357 Sig?? LOL talk about a dead caliber! It's 6 feet under while the .40 is still digging the hole!

What cam I say?
Most sheep follow the 9mm.......Err, sheep follow the other sheep.

 

[Pete F]

The .41 AE was developed by Action Arms (Philadelphia) VP Evan Whildin in 1986 (50AE in 1988). It is based on a shortened .41 mag with a rebated rim. The idea was that it could be fired in the same guns as a 9mm, with only barrel and spring change. I have two Tanfoglio TA-90s that can shoot the .41 AE. One is a convertible, both 9mm and .41AE and the other is called an Ultra IPSC, .41AE only. The largest user of the cartridge was Israel. They wanted a cartridge with more power for their Uzi's. Two of the major cartridge manufacturers were Samson and UZI, both Israeli. I am not sure who made the most pistols in this chambering, but the Uzi is the only carbine that I have heard of.
The.40 S&W came later and most ammunition manufacturers backed the .40 S&W, even though the .41AE had a slight edge in ballistics.
I love shooting the .41AE and stocked up on enough ammo, brass and bullets (170, 185, 200 and 210 grain) to keep me going - and maybe the Grandkids too.

 

[Kruel J]

What cam I say?
Most sheep follow the 9mm.......Err, sheep follow the other sheep.

I sure wouldn't volunteer to stand in front of my 17 or 34 loaded with gold dots, that's for sure!

 

[Medic!]

Now you're just making s*** up.

It's looking that way.

 

[Captain O]

The 10mm has been "revived" and the full-power 10mm loads are more prevalent (and more profitable) than ever. (I have 5 handguns chambered in the cartridge).

I have never had much use for the .40 S&W.

 

[Kruel J]

It's looking that way.

Ah, I've seen that video. He wasn't using full house loads at all. Probably some garbage target rounds from Cabela's or something. You are right, most 10mm off-the-shelf stuff is loaded really weak. True full strength 10mm spanks the .40 all day long and will out power many .357 mag loads.

 

[Kruel J]

The 10mm has been "revived" and the full-power 10mm loads are more prevalent (and more profitable) than ever. (I have 5 handguns chambered in the cartridge).

I have never had much use for the .40 S&W.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[Kruel J]

Per wikipedia:

In military use, the government of Denmark has issued the Glock 20 to the Slædepatruljen Sirius (Sirius Sledge Patrol) headquartered in Daneborg, Northeast Greenland.[4] The pistols were issued as a defense against polar bears which the unit encounters during patrols.[32][33]

If it's good enough for a 9' polar bear, it's good enough for me.

 

[Medic!]

Ah, I've seen that video. He wasn't using full house loads at all. Probably some garbage target rounds from Cabela's or something. You are right, most 10mm off-the-shelf stuff is loaded really weak. True full strength 10mm spanks the .40 all day long and will out power many .357 mag loads.

I love 10mm. It's too bad many download it.
There is still good ammo out there if you look.

I just prefer to carry a smaller frame gun in .357 SIG.

 

[Kruel J]

I love 10mm. It's too bad many download it.
There is still good ammo out there if you look.

I just prefer to carry a smaller frame gun in .357 SIG.

Look brother, .357 sig was one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" rounds. But let's be honest, that caliber, far more than the .40, is dying. Quickly. I have a friend that carries one in the Glock flavor, and he told me as soon as he's eaten up his stash of ammo, it's gone because it's getting too expensive to feed. I agreed 100%.

Why .357 Sig Never Caught On

 

[Medic!]

Look brother, .357 sig was one of those "seemed like a good idea at the time" rounds. But let's be honest, that caliber, far more than the .40, is dying. Quickly. I have a friend that carries one in the Glock flavor, and he told me as soon as he's eaten up his stash of ammo, it's gone because it's getting too expensive to feed. I agreed 100%.

Why .357 Sig Never Caught On

I like it.
And I don't care if I need to plug it into my cars cigarette lighter to keep it on life support. I'm keeping it alive!

Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 357 SIG Ammo 125 Grain JHP

It's gone now. I bought it all.

 

[Captain O]

Ah, I've seen that video. He wasn't using full house loads at all. Probably some garbage target rounds from Cabela's or something. You are right, most 10mm off-the-shelf stuff is loaded really weak. True full strength 10mm spanks the .40 all day long and will out power many .357 mag loads.

'Tis true. Full-power 10mm Auto loads (170-180 grains) run into the "lower end" .41 Magnum power range.

This works for me.

 

[Kruel J]

I like it.
And I don't care if I need to plug it into my cars cigarette lighter to keep it on life support. I'm keeping it alive!

Speer Gold Dot LE Duty 357 SIG Ammo 125 Grain JHP

As long as you like it, carry a defib kit if you have to to keep it alive. Just carry. Everyday.

 

[Pete F]

A short list of manufacturers, importers and .41AE pistols - EAA Witness (Tanfoglio), TZ 75 (Tanfoglio), GT41 & 41 ULTRA (Tanfoglio), CZ 75/85, Jericho, EXCAM, TA90 (Tanfoglio), Springfield P-9, Baby Eagle, SAR B6, Browning Hi Power.

 

[Medic!]

As long as you like it, carry a defib kit if you have to to keep it alive. Just carry. Everyday.

 

[No_Regerts]

10mm guys are like 300 Ultra Mag guys. Talk power, are slightly afraid of their own gun, shoot less-than full-power loads in guns that hold fewer bullets, wax eloquently of the cartridge's virtues over other cartrides that FIRE THE SAME FREAKING BULLET.