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I don't like the grip and trigger pull on my AR.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by Peak_oil, Jan 19, 2016.

  1. Peak_oil

    Peak_oil Member

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    This is my first AR, I probably don't know what I'm talking about. When I grip the handgrip and wrap my index finger around the trigger, my finger is on the first knuckle. I really want the pad of my index finger past the second knuckle on the trigger.

    This is way too short for me.

    When I try to back my hand off the grip to give my index finger a little more room, I can't get my hand up in it, I have to my move my hand back down off it. It's not instinctive. I would like to have a lot more material to wrap my hand around so I could back my index finger off the trigger and try to put the pad of my finger on the trigger in a more natural manner.

    I don't want to wrap a half inch of duct tape around the hand grip to make this more natural. What else should I try?
     
  2. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    I like Magpul grips. They have a little extra material in the palm.
    But I'm sure there are many Mfg's to choose from?
     
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  3. Certaindeaf

    Certaindeaf SE Portland Well-Known Member

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    If that doesn't do it perhaps a straight trigger and or a trigger shoe?
    good luck
     
  4. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    I have your problem
    the best thing for me was a more vertical grip with the fattest beaver tail I could get

    The B5 Grip 23 (aka Umbrella Corp grip 23) is the best grip on the market for our problem, the vertical grip drops the heal of your hand down.
    As the heal of your hand drops down it pulls your trigger finger away from the trigger and unhinges your wrist a little
    The thick beaver tail also adds some space , pulling your finger back away from the trigger

    the flat bow trigger will contribute as well but you can get the B5 grip 23 from AIM for 19 bucks

    this is the grip 23 with a flat bow, pretty much have all my AR's set up like this

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  5. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Agreed on a more verticle configured pistol grip. I like CAA grips because you can configure the number of finger grooves, and comes with three different back straps to increase/decrease the front to back cross-section of the grip.

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  6. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    That's the great thing about ARs there's a million combinations to choose from. And grips are cheap to swap out. Hard part is trying them out.
    Triggers are a little more spendy, but there's really only two configurations.
     
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  7. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I use Ergo Grips. They are hand filling and I find them much more comfortable than factory!
     
  8. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    get an ERGO grip with the palm swell. use it on all my rifles. also a good sear polish with some jp springs will yield a nice trigger.

    http://ergogrips.net/products/ergo-rifle-grips/ergo-tactical-deluxe-grip.html
     
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  9. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    his index finger/hand is too long

    how does palm swell and a trigger job help his issue ?
     
  10. v0lcom13sn0w

    v0lcom13sn0w Keizer, or Well-Known Member

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    this grip put the pad of my finger on my trigger. its a fatter grip. trigger springs are only a suggestion. wont help with the position of his finger.
     
  11. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    If you don't like the AR's "Trigger Creep, try this.

    Materials needed:
    (1) tap 1/4x? (24/28)
    (1) Socket head set screw (3/8" or 1/2")x1/4"x? (24/28 Depending on lower)
    (1) Tube Loc-Tite

    1. Remove the Upper from the lower.
    2. Take out the hammer and the trigger.
    3. Remove the pistol grip (Watch out for the rear pivot pin spring).
    4. Using a tap that matches the thread of the pistol grip screw, run it in from
    the bottom of the receiver and complete the thread in the un-threaded portion
    of the hole. Use a lube on the tap to keep it from binding.
    5. Remove any debris from the receiver and de-grease the threads you've just cut and insert the set screw (From the bottom).
    6. Reinstall the trigger and hammer.
    7. Now you can adjust the amount of creep in the trigger by screwing the set screw up against the bottom of it.
    * Caution !! When testing the trigger pull, use a hammer block, or something to keep the hammer from striking the web of the receiver. I use the back of my hand.
    8. When satisfied with the adjustment, take the hammer and trigger back out and put a drop of Loc-Tite on the protruding threads of the set screw. Allow to dry
    9. Lube and re-assemble the rifle.

    This procedure will not change your trigger pull (force), but you will no longer have to "feel for" the let-off. :)
     
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  12. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    For trigger creep, (never tried the above mentioned) try a JoeBob's AR15 Grip Screw Trigger Adjuster. Or (my option) replace the trigger with a Geiselle SSA

    Here's my recipe (note: Use Windex as a lubricant)
    Magpul MIAD with the fattest backstrap. Front insert is finger grooved.
    Next, slide on a Pachmeyer (no ridge) grip sleeve
    Finally, a Hogue Handall Full Size Grip Sleeve slid on over the Pachmeyer.
    This puts the trigger contact on the first (behind the finger nail) joint.
     
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  13. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    A problem to watch for on the " AR15 Grip Screw Trigger Adjusters." out there.:rolleyes:
    The one my brother bought had a *Metric Thread*.:rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  14. lucifermonkey

    lucifermonkey Portland, OR Well-Known Member

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    Just cut off some of your finger until you get the perfect fit. ;)
     
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  15. Capn Jack

    Capn Jack Wet-Stern Washington Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Thanks for contributing...:rolleyes:
     
  16. Stomper

    Stomper Oceania Rising White Is The New Brown Silver Supporter

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    Why not just break one joint off at a time in your nose, right? o_O
     
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  17. 2A2Dend

    2A2Dend .. Well-Known Member

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    I've never tried them myself.
     
  18. oli700

    oli700 Rogue Valley Well-Known Member

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    lol, by the time this thread is done he'll be checking head space for a anatomical problem
     
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  19. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    The stock grip fits my hand lke a glove...but then add the weight of the upper on an AR pistol and I am looking for fatter grips, Magpul, etc. so for me, he pistol will have a different grip than the carbine. Try as many as you can before you buy.
    My problem is I look at unused stock parts and say:Gee, if I just had this and that, and one of those I'd have another Evil black rifle.;)

    Brutus Out
     
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  20. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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