Washington I-1639 / More info

G1GRANDEUR · Jun 30, 2019

SUPER X said:
Can washington resident's still buy a long gun in Oregon or idaho.?

I believe you can still buy bolt action, smooth bore shotgun or lever action like how it was. that's why i didn't buy any of them in hurry.

outontherange · Jun 30, 2019

Y

Thrifty said:
Talked with a shop today and sounds like that release has always been on the FFL form.. In the gray shaded area.. I was under the impression this was a new issue as well.. but apparently not new after all...

Yes it has.

Caveman Jim · Jun 30, 2019

So how was everyone's panic buying this weekend???

Thrifty · Jun 30, 2019

outontherange said:
Y

Yes it has.

How so then? I wasn't aware of the medical release that was on there all this time until I had it read out to all of us there..

GWS · Jun 30, 2019

Caveman Jim said:
So how was everyone's panic buying this weekend???

It looked pretty good. I went by Sporting Systems on Saturday and they had a line out the door waiting to their turn to get in.
I wasn't thinking real hard about getting anything so I headed on down the road.

I got mine Friday

SUPER X · Jun 30, 2019

fmfdoc said:
Unfortunately, nowhere is is specified exactly what diagnoses or codes thery will look foir or which ones will "concern" the state. Essentially once you sign they have carte blanc to to go fishing for anything "they" (the state) they like.
Consider this, When we open a patient up and do a coronary bypass it is almost a certainty that they will develop depression.
Since this process is supposedly about "prevention" they could certainly decide to more highly scutinize individuals who have undergone heart surgery....... the depths to which a buracracy will sink in the interst of "public good" knows no bounds or limits.

This change in the law WILL have an effect; and the effect it will have is that patients who might benefit from talking to someone or a short course of medications will be hesitant to seek out care of any kind. Those that need help and those that will most likely benefit from such help will no get it. It is actually a public health travesty that will cause untold harm.

This has to violate the HIPPA laws

outontherange · Jun 30, 2019

Thrifty said:
How so then? I wasn't aware of the medical release that was on there all this time until I had it read out to all of us there..

It's on the handgun form. I saw at the camas gun store. It's always been there. Shaded I. Grey.

Thrifty · Jun 30, 2019

outontherange said:
It's on the handgun form. I saw at the camas gun store. It's always been there. Shaded I. Grey.

That's what I'm saying... it's always been there.. it's not new.. the state has always had access to our medical info whenever they wanted..

DB is Here · Jun 30, 2019

Thrifty said:
Talked with a shop today and sounds like that release has always been on the FFL form.. In the gray shaded area.. I was under the impression this was a new issue as well.. but apparently not new after all...

It was a one time check that you allowed when purchasing. Now it'll be open access for them to check whenever they desire wether you purchase or not. I doubt many realize it gives the Gov unfettered access to your medical records.

Thrifty · Jul 1, 2019

DB Wesner said:
It was a one time check that you allowed when purchasing. Now it'll be open access for them to check whenever they desire wether you purchase or not. I doubt many realize it gives the Gov unfettered access to your medical records.

Looks like to only added wording to what's already been the law is "semiautomatic assault rifle"

RCW 9.41.094: Waiver of confidentiality. (<i>Effective until July 1, 2019.</i>)

Boss · Jul 1, 2019

DB Wesner said:
It was a one time check that you allowed when purchasing. Now it'll be open access for them to check whenever they desire wether you purchase or not. I doubt many realize it gives the Gov unfettered access to your medical records.

This was my understanding as well based on how it was written. One time check at the time of purchase...NOT anytime, whenever...forever.

It would be unlikely they consider it a HIPPA violation if YOU SIGN A WAIVER...especially in line with something that has been around for a couple decades (purchase check).

If you don't like it, well just don't make the purchase...easy peasy, right?

There will be many who do exactly that...not purchase another 10/22 or AR...which is what the prohibitionists want...probably going to put some shops out of business... again, what they want.

Don't be surprised if the next is 'Well, what about all these people who already own them? Shouldn't they be required to be trained too? Isn't that just common sense?'

Let's hope 1639 is rightfully gets struck down in the courts. Do your part to spread the word.

Boss

Geardo · Jul 1, 2019

DB Wesner said:
As long as 1639 is in effect, I'll not buy another firearm. No way am I giving full access to my most personal records to be checked whenever they feel like it. Ill send my firearm budget to SAF.

Just buy 80% ers out of state with cash. Their are enough options now to satisfy almost anyone, glock, 1911, 10/22, ar15, ar10, sig 320, AK. Etc

kukusya · Jul 1, 2019

Taco_lean said:
Just buy 80% ers out of state with cash. Their are enough options now to satisfy almost anyone, glock, 1911, 10/22, ar15, ar10, sig 320, AK. Etc

Why by 80%??? We still have 1 more year to by strip lowers. By 1 each paycheck and set for life time.

Geardo · Jul 1, 2019

kukusya said:
Why by 80%??? We still have 1 more year to by strip lowers. By 1 each paycheck and set for life time.

I believe in a healthy mix of both. But stripped lowers aren't as easy of an option for some guns.

User 1234 · Jul 1, 2019

We have more than one year to buy stripped lowers. The switch from federal background checks to state background checks is delayed by a year, not the ability to buy.

micdude · Jul 1, 2019

https://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652001a.pdf

Here are the new forms look at section C 4

micdude · Jul 1, 2019

micdude said:
https://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652001a.pdf

Here are the new forms look at section C 4

Edit
I think this should be covered by the 5th amendment also, you're incriminating yourself.

Caveman Jim · Jul 1, 2019

GWS said:
It looked pretty good. I went by Sporting Systems on Saturday and they had a line out the door waiting to their turn to get in.
I wasn't thinking real hard about getting anything so I headed on down the road.

I got mine Friday

It was the same up in the Pungentsound area too, people read on the internet that this is their last chance to buy an assault weapon....

It's uncanny how many gun owners are so uninformed....