Washington I-1639 being misrepresented by petitioners?

[Caveman Jim]

And Bubbas opening line is "You Sho got a purrty mouf"!!!

 

[WrenchNguns]

I'm sad to say my wife got suckered into signing it. She is pretty upset by it

 

[JustSomeGuy]

I think we need to get as many people as we can to get documentation of this chicanery in as many different locations as possible and get it all submitted to the office of the Washington Attorney General. I for one will be making daily trips around the valley seeking them out to document this activity.

 

[WrenchNguns]

get it all submitted to the office of the Washington Attorney General

Too bad the A.G. wants this initiative to pass. Not very partial

 

[eklarsen]

Not sure, I'm an Oregon resident. I'd say the WA AG would be a really good start.

That pretty funny, Bob Furgeson is like the biggest anti gun guy around, he would applaud that behavior

 

[Kruel J]

That pretty funny, Bob Furgeson is like the biggest anti gun guy around, he would applaud that behavior

Again, I'm not a WA resident.

 

[Doc In UPlace]

Here's the actual I-1639 site: Initiative 1639: Safe Schools, Safe Communities - Alliance for Gun Responsibility

Dishonest is dishonest, no way around it.

 

[American123]

I did ask the petitioners how would it keep kids safer when someone who is committed to doing them harm is already going to ignore all laws against doing that.

They didn't have an answer.

 

[Diamondback]

Has anyone actually seen this, it's being put out on the internet...???

"This is the new low the gun control folks have hit. Cannot win the debate being honest so they are deceiving people by using these signs knowing people are too lazy to actually know what they're really voting on. It has nothing, zero, to do with tabs or groceries."
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I've seen this, and reported on it, at my local Walmart. Paid gatherers with stacks of petitions for multiple initiatives, they don't care what they're pushing or whose money they take as long as the paychecks clear. Damn mercenaries...

 

[awshoot]

Saw it at UW Tacoma today, completely obliterated the petition gatherers when I asked them if they knew anything about the "background checks" already done whey a gun is purchased. I asked if they were paid to be there and they confirmed they were paid petition gatherers.

It is time to ban paid signature gatherers. If an initiative has the support of the people, paying people to gather signatures is not necessary because there will be plenty of volunteers.

 

[Diamondback]

It is time to ban paid signature gatherers. If an initiative has the support of the people, paying people to gather signatures is not necessary because there will be plenty of volunteers.

At the very least eliminate pay-per-sig bounty hunting. I could see an hourly rate, but Pay-Per-Sig has gotta go.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

If it turns out to actually be a bait and switch scam to get signatures I plan on sending that information and whatever evidence of it that I can collect to not only the state AG, but to the offices of the local, county and state elected officials that represent me as well as any media outlets that I can think of. Sending email is quick, cheap and easy, and if this is a scam i would suggest anyone coming across it do the same.

 

[MrMillspecer]

I'm sad to say my wife got suckered into signing it. She is pretty upset by it

I wonder how many more got tricked the into signing. Anything collected that way should be thrown out. A bunch of lying cheaters doing what they are best at. And i doubt they would get in trouble even if caught , the systems are so corrupt.

 

[UserNameInUse]

It is time to ban paid signature gatherers. If an initiative has the support of the people, paying people to gather signatures is not necessary because there will be plenty of volunteers.

Exactly. Billionaires should not be able to purchase laws by exploiting the initiative process. The next step will be TV ads targeting urban areas and we get a new law that the folks that voted for it don't have a clue what it is about.

If conservative billionaires were doing this the backlash would be deafening.

BTW, this thread needs a title that says what it is about. I almost didn't click.

 

[WrenchNguns]

Hey there @IOM , maybe change the thread title to "I1639 tricks" or something to better describe the thread? Just a thought to let people know what this thread is about.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

Here's the actual I-1639 site: Initiative 1639: Safe Schools, Safe Communities - Alliance for Gun Responsibility

Dishonest is dishonest, no way around it.

Interesting that I can't find any actual verbiage from the initiative or a link to it on that page.

 

[JustSomeGuy]

Also interesting: Two of the five board members are government employees. One is the Chief of Staff for a King County Prosecuting Attorney and the other is the Communications Director for none other than Jay Inslee.

 

[11Charlie]

Well this sucks I better tell my wife so she doesn't sign something. People sitting at the booth should be meeting BUBBA!

 

[IOM]

Hey there @IOM , maybe change the thread title to "I1639 tricks" or something to better describe the thread? Just a thought to let people know what this thread is about.

Certainly, not real sure I can change the title but I'll ask one of the mods to do so...

Mod's can you change the title for a clearer definition...???

 

[JustSomeGuy]

I'm striking out. Made two passes around the valley so far checking all the usual places and haven't seen a single person gathering signatures.