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How's for a light weight AR15 platform

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by clearconscience, Jul 5, 2016.

  1. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    308 ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ ΜOΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Platinum Supporter Silver Supporter

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    Direct impingement gasses escaping through all those slots?
     
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    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    You would think it would cause some cycling issues from loss of pressure once the bcg separates from the gas tube
     
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    3MTA3 DMZ between Liberty and Tyranny Behind Enemy Lines Bronze Supporter

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    The weight is in the steel parts, anyway, if you are looking for a lightweight AR. The tiny amount of weight saved by that upper and lower is trivial and IMO in no way offsets it's drawbacks.
     
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    Ura-Ki Sub Light Speed Well-Known Member

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    Why not just go with a NODAK SPUD retro upper/lower with a light pencil barrel? (unless the looks are what your after) I did one in this combo and the total weight empty was around 5 1/2 pounds with a fixed carry handle!
     
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    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    It is 100% for looks and not made to be used as a serious Hunter or defender rifle.

    I would dig it with all stainless underneath it - something about stainless and black does it for me.
     
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    Third kind of cool - looks neat but detracts from functional use?
     
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    Joe13 NW of Vancouver Opinionated & Blunt Bronze Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    Those either fall into plinker or safe queen categories:D
     
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    I have to look past things like this when it comes to firearms, I have a real fetish with anodizing and machined billet parts! It's a good thing I'm poor!!!
     
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    Looks really neat but At $500 I'm going to say no.
     
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    1) Pencil barrel
    2) lightweight bolt carrier
    3) The lightest handguard you can find

    Anything else isn't worth the weight difference, in my opinion. Of course you have to be careful with the optic and mount, too.
     
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    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    Not really, once gas pushes the gas rings excess gas leaves anyways.

    Tbh, it takes away the advantage of a closed system. Not worth it, just save weight in other areas if you really need to.
     
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    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    The stock can make a significant difference as well.

    But having the weight on the back end can lead to better balance and movement.

    I'm about to build an AR10 and was looking for some lighter weight items, but the differences in weight are so small that it hardly makes a difference. But cutting a couple ounces here and there can also add up
     
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    I went with a heavier than planned stock on my builds that used a normal profile barrel for that very reason - It put the balance in the middle of the mag well. This way no change in balance as I go through ammo.

    Light is great but not everything, though I am planning a lighter weight AR as a truck gun/ get home gun, where I will use a smaller profile barrel. The compromise with a pencil or smaller profile is the amount of heat the barrel can handle before you lose accuracy. I figure in a get home situation if I go through more than three mags in a single defensive episode I'm probably already dead anyway.
     
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    Boboclown North Carolina Well-Known Member

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    The optic you choose can also play a role in saving weight. Some scopes are heavy, some are light. If you're fine with a fixed 4x, acogs tend to be on the lighter scale.
     
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    I was surprised by how light I was able to get my AR using the NODAK SPUD upper and lower! Combined with a 11" standard profile barrel and 2 Position Buffer tube and light G.I. stock! I also installed a light bolt and carrier and used the old school shorty triangle hand guards ( not that they were lighter) and I got down to 5.5 pounds with carry handle! It comes up to 6.9 pounds with the UTG bugbuster scope and a 30 rd steel mag loaded, but that's still a very light carbine considering its all alloy! It shoots well and doesn't really heat up, and like posted above, If I am going through ammo fast, I'm in trouble!
     
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