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It would have been so much more convenient for Morning Joe or Jake Tapper if the Colorado school shooters were cis-gendered, white, Christian males, members of the NRA, wearing MAGA hats while brandishing AR-15s. But since that wasn't the case, don't expect the media to linger on this shooting. Instead they will focus on Trump's real estate tax losses from 30 years ago.


Pretty much nails it.
 
My Dad grew up in the 50's he said the 3 things that most got in trouble for in High School was Running in the hallway, whistling in the hallway or being a smart azz....what changed?

Me too.

Nothing changed.
THE "PLAN" has simply Continued......
"FAKE NEWS"
has "SHAPED PUBLIC OPINION" which according to Walter Cronkite
"IS THEIR JOB"......

Toss in "MOLDING" in the School System, as per Gvmnt Regs....,

Social media..

The Silent Majority staying SILENT AND DOING NOTHING...

Human Pride....
Denial....

etc....
 
Erickson, a registered Democrat, expressed hatred for Christians who uphold the biblical position on traditional sexuality. He also attacked Donald Trump and praised Barack Obama on social media.

That never happens. :confused:
 
So does this make it the first school shooting by someone born biologically female?
Hopefully I don't anger anybody by asking that.

The "Gun Control" people should not take any offense, because the persons and/or the reasons/causes are immaterial. The only thing they are focused on is "the guns are the cause"!

The part about the safe is interesting...
This is evidence that safe storage laws wouldn't help much to a determined individual. Not that we didn't all already know that already...

And the "Gun Control" people probably also know that! But that won't stop them from proposing additional laws that they also know wouldn't have and won't prevent this type of violent crime (notice I didn't use the terms "GUN violence", "GUN crime" or "mass SHOOTING").
 
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My Brother has studied every religion/ belief system in the world.
When this Idiocy Drama became so manifest that
"THOSE HAVE EYES WITH WHICH TO SEE", could SEE IT,
he called me up and said that "It is if a SPELL HAD BEEN CAST ON THE ENTIRE WORLD"...

this was sometime before the 2018 mid term elections....

he is 73 yrs old, and I have NEVER EVER HEARD HIM USE THE TERM "CAST A SPELL"
relative to anything serious let alone the daily babble in the media, etc....

When I was 13 / 14 my Mom and I used to have talks abt this going on and
how it related to Prophecies and such...

Of course being a good Mom she iterated that none of it would happen in my lifetime...,
or my kids, or my grandchildren.....:)

Yet here I am watching it happen 24-7....
EVERY Fliping Day.....


In 1983 the Stats were that since 1900 an average of some 1/2 million people had died every year by the hands of their own governments...
NOT COMBAT CASUALTY/ COLLATERAL WAR FATALITIES.....

BUT MURDERED.....

And the 1 thing they had in common was that THEY HAD
ALL BEEN DISARMED BY THEIR OWN GVMNTS...
 
In 1983 the Stats were that since 1900 an average of some 1/2 million people had died every year by the hands of their own governments...
NOT COMBAT CASUALTY/ COLLATERAL WAR FATALITIES.....

BUT MURDERED.....

And the 1 thing they had in common was that THEY HAD
ALL BEEN DISARMED BY THEIR OWN GVMNTS...

Why "Gun Control" is to be Feared; A 20th Century History of Genocide!

Keeping firearms from people who are adjudicated as a danger to themselves and others is a reasonable goal. However, the Democratic party and the "Gun Control" groups are trying to "sneak in" other expanded criteria and limitations as well as banning whole classes of firearms and magazines. In addition, these people are also trying to surreptitiously collect records on individual firearm ownership.

From 1915 to 1994, a total of 74 to 90 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by governments using gun control.

Throughout 20th Century history every genocide has started with "gun control", followed by firearm registration, then followed by firearm confiscation, and finally tyranny/genocide:

1911: Ottoman Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.0 to 1.5 million Armenians (mostly Christians) were exterminated.

1914: China established gun control. From 1927 to 1949, 20 million political dissidents were exterminated by the Nationalist government.

1928: Germany established gun control. From 1933 to 1945, 13 to 20 million Jews and others were exterminated by the Nazi.

1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, 20 million dissidents were exterminated.

1932: Guatemala established gun control. From 1960 to 1981, 100,000 to 200,000 Mayan Indians were exterminated.

1938: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1979, 2 million educated people were exterminated by the Khmer Rouge.

1949: People's Republic of China used existing and expanded (1951) gun control. From 1949 to 1976, 20 to 35 million political dissidents were exterminated by the Communist.

1955: Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians were exterminated.

1979: Rwanda established gun control. In 1994, 800,000 Tutsi people were exterminated.

It is now painfully obvious that the true goal of the "Gun Control" groups and the Democratic party is to eventually ban all firearms in the USA except for active military, law enforcement and government agents.

So why do I not feel safer with the concept of the only firearms being in the hands of government agents or the military? Why did our forefathers include the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution of the United States, Bill of Rights, and why does that Amendment include the words ". . . shall not be infringed."? The answer to these questions is: a review of the history of civilizations shows that the overwhelming majority of mass killings were by governments and/or religions.
 
our country is nowhere near the state of any of those that you listed. Along with how differently the world works today, I think all of those comparisons are pointless, and even if total gun control passes, there would be no reason to start killing taxpayers. Heart disease is already doing a better job than crime and terrorism combined.
 
our country is nowhere near the state of any of those that you listed. Along with how differently the world works today, I think all of those comparisons are pointless, and even if total gun control passes, there would be no reason to start killing taxpayers. Heart disease is already doing a better job than crime and terrorism combined.

There is truth in what you state,
yet Those examples above were Relative IN THEIR TIMES..
And times have changed and so has the relativity.

Throughout history it has been Axiomatic that Disarming the People is
a Primary Pirority in controlling the masses...

And throughout history there is a pattern that Spans Time and The Globe....
THE PLAN. And it continues...

THEIR Modus Operandi is "Chip Away, Chip Away, Chip Away, Chip Away..."

People live under whatever form of Gvmnt They are WILLING TO TOLERATE...
and Apathy is the Gateway down That Rabbit Hole IE; The Frog in the Well syndrome...

The Stumbling block to That Goal [Disarming the Folks] is the the US has the 2nd A,
unlike all other countries,
though there might be something like the Grand Duchy of Fenwick...;)...

1968 over 110 US Cities were Burning.... Flying out from Ft Meade MD you could see
Pillars of smoke rising abt any direction you looked.... MLK had been Shot.
US Active Duty Soldiers were Trained in Fighting Riots and Designated to Go if needed.
This started early in 1968 anticipating trouble in Chicago during the Democrat National Convention coming up in July [IIRC].
It was called OPERATION GARDEN PLOT. Google and see what turns up....:):)
And in Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act...
Most of these guys had been in Combat.:( [*]


Mid 1967 The World Bank, the helper of developing nations, Borrowed $166 Million out of the US Money Supply and did a DIRECT WIRE TRANSFER to an East European Arms Manufacturer so that They were then Funded to FULFIL a CONTRACT TO A CHINESE COMPANY OWNED BY A NORTH VIETNAMESE GENERAL so that AK 47s, etc,
could be SUPPLIED TO THE VIET KONG...


How do I know this?
I heard my Bunkmate Talking with his Father on the payphone.
Charles Willard Bennett Wardell Jr. [**] had just told this to
Charles W. B. "Chuck" Wardell III [***]
'Father' was then a Senior VP of a Commercial Bank in NY City.
When I asked Chuck what was up he then told me and I looked at my pay voucher and asked if that meant that some of the loot that had been deducted from my pay was gonna be used to make guns that might wind up "Killing some of the Guys in this room?"

"Yup!! And Father is very upset abt it, But you ain't heard nothing yet...
THEY had Borrowed the Money at 12%,
LENT IT AT 6% and

[US] TREASURY HAD WRITTEN THE CHECK TO MAKE UP THE OTHER 6%... "


Those weapons went up the Mekong River to a Cache in the Fishhook area in Cambodia.
Don't believe me?

There were articles abt Operation Fishhook in both Fighting Firearms and Soldier of Fortune.
B 52s were to "Accidentally" Carpet bomb that site and upon completion some SOG guys and their Montagnards went in to mop up but got slaughtered because an ARVN General in on the planning was a V.C.

That was the last time anybody saw "MAD DOG" Jerry Schriver [****]

For many here this was more than a lifetime ago, and for others just a distant memory. For me it is like yesterday, and not much has changed other than the Shyte has gotten thicker and worser...

And Marco Rubio may support the "RED FLAG LAWS??"
just 1/2 hr aago there wound up being 6 Clac Cty Cruisers parked begining next door plus a supervisor SUV and a Gladstone Po Po supervisor.

I live in a nice neighborhood next to a Day Care center...

OH WELL



[*]
Spc4 Poncho from NYC said "You better not send me out on that shyte 'cause
I'd just as soon Drop 1 of them Mo... Fks... as I would a G..k..."
His RVN Buddy Wesley, a Black kid from NYC as well, raised his clenched fist and said
"RIGHT ON BROTHER" immediately followed by all the other Brothers in that room of some 200 guys.

[**]
https://paw.princeton.edu/memorial/charles-willard-bennett-wardell-jr-'35
[***]
Charles Willard Bennett Wardell III
[****]
https://www.google.com/search?q="MAD+DOG"+Jerry+Schriver&oq="MAD+DOG"+Jerry+Schriver&aqs=chrome..69i57.2080835j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


 
all good points, and I don't doubt it.

There was a lot of motivation and reasoning behind those slaughters, and each was relative to their own time and situation.

Currently, if American citizens were disarmed, I wouldn't expect it to be much different than western european countries that have disarmed their citizens, ie, not much conflict, because what would be the motivation or reasoning to just up and slaughter ourselves? We've got a good thing going as far as our country and citizenry is concerned. Armed or not.
 
all good points, and I don't doubt it.

There was a lot of motivation and reasoning behind those slaughters, and each was relative to their own time and situation.

Currently, if American citizens were disarmed, I wouldn't expect it to be much different than western european countries that have disarmed their citizens, ie, not much conflict, because what would be the motivation or reasoning to just up and slaughter ourselves? We've got a good thing going as far as our country and citizenry is concerned. Armed or not.
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all good points, and I don't doubt it.

There was a lot of motivation and reasoning behind those slaughters, and each was relative to their own time and situation.

Currently, if American citizens were disarmed, I wouldn't expect it to be much different than western european countries that have disarmed their citizens, ie, not much conflict, because what would be the motivation or reasoning to just up and slaughter ourselves? We've got a good thing going as far as our country and citizenry is concerned. Armed or not.

I'm willing to bet that a very large percentage of the 74 to 90 million people listed in my comment above (#111) also said "It can't happen here". I have a very different belief and already know what I would do. One thing I know I would not do, is risk my, or my loved ones, liberty and life for people who are not prepared to protect themselves. As the saying goes: "Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it."
 
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What concerns me is that, though the world has changed, and society has evolved, human nature itself has not changed. "Civilized" people are still as inherently capable of horrific things as they were a century ago.

I'd like to think that wasn't so, but the change I've seen in just one generation, and the political insanity we've witnessed in recent time... As unlikely as I think it is, and as much as I really don't want to believe such things, I have to believe that some pretty terrible things are still possible in this world if we're not careful.
 
Look into the bank acts that took place after the Blood Bath ended, sorta, in 1865....
Hidden in Politicians words is an act UNLAWFULLY CREATING A CORPORATION..[*] that
was to be Gvmnt for Wa DC... 10 miles square belonging to the US of A as a Constitutional Republic.

Well, there was already a gvmnt for that 10 miles of dirt and bldgs...

The Name of this new Corporation was AND STILL IS:

THE UNITED STATES, Inc.
Chip away, chip away, etc and there becomes more legislated acts giving us the
UNIFORM COMMERCIAL CODE, Which is the SUPREME L;AW OF THE LAND TO ALL WHO FALL INTO IT'S JURISDICTION...

The 14th A brought in Corporations as ARTIFICIAL [NON-SENTIENT] PERSONS,
GIVING THEM THE SAME RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES AS REAL NATURAL HUMAN BEING PERSONS....
Any Adhesion Contract draws the contractee into that jurisdiction...
Drivers license, bank accts, etc......
making those Chattel Property owned by that Corporation.

Look into UCC 1-207 [now 1-308] abt signing any contract "WITHOUT PREJUDICE" or ''UNDER PROTEST'' or "WORDS TO THE LIKE"....

'Cause ifn you don't then you CANNOT CLAIM ANY CONSTITUTIONALLY SECURED RIGHTS IN ANY COURT ACTION HAVING TO DO W/ THE CONTRACT:

Which involves ANY AGREEMENT TO PERFORM.......

We have in essence traded in all of our CONSTITUTIONALLY SECURED RIGHTS for LICENSED PRIVILEGES.......


BTW,
A birth Cert is your LICENSED PRIVILEGE TO LIVE.



[*]
Check out Marbury vs Madison, 1803
 
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Why "Gun Control" is to be Feared; A 20th Century History of Genocide!

Keeping firearms from people who are adjudicated as a danger to themselves and others is a reasonable goal. However, the Democratic party and the "Gun Control" groups are trying to "sneak in" other expanded criteria and limitations as well as banning whole classes of firearms and magazines. In addition, these people are also trying to surreptitiously collect records on individual firearm ownership.

From 1915 to 1994, a total of 74 to 90 million defenseless people were rounded up and exterminated by governments using gun control.

Throughout 20th Century history every genocide has started with "gun control", followed by firearm registration, then followed by firearm confiscation, and finally tyranny/genocide:

1911: Ottoman Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.0 to 1.5 million Armenians (mostly Christians) were exterminated.
And inspired Hitler to do the same:
"Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter – with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It's a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command – and I'll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad – that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness – for the present only in the East – with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks today of the annihilation of the Armenians?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitler%27s_Obersalzberg_Speech

1914: China established gun control. From 1927 to 1949, 20 million political dissidents were exterminated by the Nationalist government.


1928: Germany established gun control. From 1933 to 1945, 13 to 20 million Jews and others were exterminated by the Nazi.
Adolf Hitler
Joseph Goebbels
Josef Mengele
Heinrich Himmler
Oskar Dirlewanger
Nazi Germany produced some of the worst people this plant has ever seen.
Top 15 Worst Nazis


1929: The Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953, 20 million dissidents were exterminated.
Our ally, Joseph Stalin was responsible for killing more of his people than Hitler.
Holodomor - Wikipedia

How Many People Did Joseph Stalin Kill?

1932: Guatemala established gun control. From 1960 to 1981, 100,000 to 200,000 Mayan Indians were exterminated.
Jorge Ubico, US backed Central America's Napoleon, liked to compare himself to Hitler.
What was Guatemala's 'Silent Genocide'?


1938: Cambodia established gun control. From 1975 to 1979, 2 million educated people were exterminated by the Khmer Rouge.
Pol Pot
https://www.history.com/topics/cold-war/pol-pot

1949: People's Republic of China used existing and expanded (1951) gun control. From 1949 to 1976, 20 to 35 million political dissidents were exterminated by the Communist.
According to the authoritative "Black Book of Communism," an estimated 65 million Chinese died as a result of Mao's repeated, merciless attempts to create a new "socialist" China. The Legacy of Mao Zedong is Mass Murder

1955: Uganda established gun control. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians were exterminated.
Idi Amin the "Butcher of Uganda"
https://www.history.com/topics/africa/idi-amin

1979: Rwanda established gun control. In 1994, 800,000 Tutsi people were exterminated.
Rwanda's 100 days of slaughter

It is now painfully obvious that the true goal of the "Gun Control" groups and the Democratic party is to eventually ban all firearms in the USA except for active military, law enforcement and government agents.

So why do I not feel safer with the concept of the only firearms being in the hands of government agents or the military? Why did our forefathers include the 2nd Amendment in the Constitution of the United States, Bill of Rights, and why does that Amendment include the words ". . . shall not be infringed."? The answer to these questions is: a review of the history of civilizations shows that the overwhelming majority of mass killings were by governments and/or religions.

Yeah, but they got the kinks work now so we should be good to go, after all one cannot make an omelet without breaking a few eggs.

You cannot have my guns without killing me and taking them, F' you I will not surrender them.
 
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