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I'm not an "admin," but you have be addressed by one.

"Side note: Please refrain from breaking rule #1 of the site lest you lose your right to visit, permanently."

1. Be excellent to each other
Though this may sound a little 'out there', we couldn't phrase it better than our sixteenth president, Abraham Lincoln (captured on VHS circa 1989).

Websters defines excellent as "unusually good" or "much better than average". Our goal of welcoming all gun owners means you're likely to find a diverse group here. Going above and beyond when interacting with others you may disagree with is not easy, but it is a condition of your membership. You don't have to be warm and cuddly, but you do have to be courteous and respectful. When things get heated, simply avoid using the word you.

How you treat others here is a direct reflection on all gun owners, and believe us, people are watching. Opting for the high road is always the best choice, and arguing on the internet is pointless. Since we don't have time to babysit, we don't care who started it; most heated discussions result in both parties receiving a reminder. Continued friction between members is best dealt with via the ignore button.

This rule is purposely vague to inclusively prohibit a wide variety of rude, malicious, catty, sarcastic, hurtful, hateful, spiteful, barbed, and ornery behavior within the Northwest Firearms community including:

  • General rudeness and disrespect (as outlined above).
  • Epithets, labels, and generalizations against another person or group of people, whether they are members here or not. These serve absolutely no purpose other than to divide us, directly opposite to our goal of uniting gun owners. This is especially relevant in regard to political labels (such as 'the liberal media', 'those right-wingers', and even 'left/right'). Pro-gun and anti-gun are the only labels that should be applied here, as we are a single issue community. This rule also applies to but is not limited to epithets, labels, and generalizations pertaining to race, sex, sexual orientation, religion, age, ethnicity, nationality, occupation (such as law enforcement), and every other one you can think of. Disagreement over what constitutes a religion, race, sexual orientation, ethnicity, etcetra is not a legitimate excuse.
  • Using someone's affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views regardless of whether said affiliations are mainstream. An example could be "you're a vegetarian, so what would you know about hunting?".
  • Linking to external attacks, harassment, or other material, for the purpose of attacking another member.
  • Comparing members to Nazis, dictators, or other infamous persons.
  • Accusations about personal behavior. If you believe a person's personal behavior is questionable, on or off the site, please contact a moderator.
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    • Threats to give out personal information about another member.
These examples are not exhaustive. Insulting or disparaging another member is prohibited regardless of the manner in which it is done.

I agree with 'Wayne's World!Party Time!Excellent!
I thought you a whiner and a complainer and the more you posted the more I thought so. So buddy you continue to do so, I don't really care and was simply trying to gently nudge you to understanding how you appear to others. And I don't need to walk in yours, I get enough on my own.


Sounds to me like someone should learn to use their Ebay rules:eek:
 
Damn, this is a funny thread.

Warranty a product that likely lived with zero maintenance or care for a period of time longer than probably expected to actually work? if this were me, I'd chalk it up to getting a new one and moving on.

Fighting a warranty on a $50 product is a bit much if you ask me.

Got one that's been going during for 5-6 years since swapping to a bigger safe. If it died unexpectedly tomorrow. My first thought, well it worked pretty damn good for that time, time to replace.

If only craftsman warranted loss, man I'd go in there and be rich in 10mm sockets.

Clearly doesn't state anything about limited warranty, but I'd be curious what the paperwork says...
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Damn, this is a funny thread.

Warranty a product that likely lived with zero maintenance or care for a period of time longer than probably expected to actually work? if this were me, I'd chalk it up to getting a new one and moving on.

Fighting a warranty on a $50 product is a bit much if you ask me.

Got one that's been going during for 5-6 years since swapping to a bigger safe. If it died unexpectedly tomorrow. My first thought, well it worked pretty damn good for that time, time to replace.

If only craftsman warranted loss, man I'd go in there and be rich in 10mm sockets.

Clearly doesn't state anything about limited warranty, but I'd be curious what the paperwork says...
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There's no fight, which is sad, to me-- I think it's sad that so many folks are so accepting of a manufacturer saying they have a Lifetime Warranty when they obviously don't, guess I'm just old fashioned.

I think it's really special how much you enjoy being lied to
 
There's no fight, which is sad, to me-- I think it's sad that so many folks are so accepting of a manufacturer saying they have a Lifetime Warranty when they obviously don't, guess I'm just old fashioned.

I think it's really special how much you enjoy being lied to
Well, what does the paperwork say?

Marketing is marketing. We are lied to everyday because of marketing.
 
As I have said several times now the package says Lifetime Warranty--
Ok, thanks for repeating.

I recall mine having a folded up piece of paperwork in the packaging. When I asked what the paperwork states, I'd be curious to what that says.

Lots of products have bold clear statements on the front, and more detailed statements in the paperwork or somewhere else to further explain.

That's called marketing.
 
Well, does the paper work say "for your lifetime," the "products lifetime," or simply "lifetime"? You can read whatever you want into "lifetime" but it still doesn't say for your lifetime. So that's not a lie except to you.


Who gives a damn what the lawyer liability paper says, I'm more worried about the two little words proudly displayed on the outside--those two words are what people think they are getting. Know any stupid libs?
 
Who gives a damn what the lawyer liability paper says, I'm more worried about the two little words proudly displayed on the outside--those two words are what people think they are getting. Know any stupid libs?
No, but I know of at least one person that can't seem to understand simple english and reads whatever he wants into a warranty. I hope that person doesn't use the same mentality for interpreting other things. Like the laws we live by.
 
Not gonna get into the whole, "what's a lifetime" thing.....:s0153:
... but I will say, when someone still has the original packaging after 30 years !

The "inner packrat" in me finds it oddly comforting to know that "I'm not alone". :)
 
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You call it 'marketing' I call it out & out lying
Man, I hope your just trolling us. If you're not, I wish you the best in life. I especially hope you can make it though the day with all the words on packages, signs and buildings that may not be 100% truthful.

I can only imagine what your thoughts are on a box of ammo.

"It says 1200 feet per second right there on the box, right freaking there!"
 
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