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This discussion and question concerns LONG GUNS, I know the rules concerning handguns are different and I am not discussing HANDGUNS. Further, I am only referring to types of firearms legal to own in BOTH states by any citizen entitled to own "normal" firearms.
I know absolutely I, a Washington resident not restricted from owning firearms, can physically go into Oregon and purchase a long gun from a FFL dealer, the FBI check is done, I pay for it, put it in my car and drive it back across the I-5 bridge into my home state. I've done it, more than once. Transfer of ownership takes place within the state of Oregon, now it is my property I am free to transport it anywhere.
I also know I can attend the gun show at Expo, purchase a long gun on the floor, go to one of the FFL dealers, have the BGcheck, pay for it, and take it home. Again, ownership transfers within the state of Oregon, I am, as above, free to transport MY property anywhere.
I know, in addition, that an OREGON resident is free to purchase, face to face, from a private party, a long gun from another Oregon resident while within the state of Oregon.
Further, if a dealer or a private party in Oregon sells a long gun to a resident of Washington and SHIPS that weapon across into Washington, the sale MUST be completed through a FFL dealer. NOTE WELL--- this type of sale actually takes place across the state line, transfer of ownership does NOT take place within one state, but rather interstate.
MY QUESTION.. can I, as a Washington resident, travel into Oregon and purchase, face to face from a private party, a long gun and then legally transport the property that is now mine back into Washington, and do this legally? If not, why not, and who breaks the law? Me, for being so nasty and rebellious as to boldly transport MY property, just acquired, from Oregon into Washington, or the seller, for knowingly (or negligently unknowingly) selling such a treacherous item to a non-Oregon resident. or both?
Further, can the seller, an Oregon resident and private party, physically transport that long gun into Washington to deliver it to a FFL dealer who will then do the paperwork for a legal transfer? If so, how does THAT interstate transport differ from my buying it south of the river and bringing it into Washington as my property?
Can a Washington located FFL dealer cross into Oregon to pick up a firearm for the purpose of transporting it into Washington for a prearranged transfer to a Washington resident? Again, the change of ownership does take place across state lines.
I am not looking for hearsay, club rules, opinions (not even a lawyer's free legal opinion). I am looking for someone who can direct me to the source, by which I mean I am wanting the specific section, code number, CFR, congressional act, at the Federal level, that governs this.
Or did Oregon, when they heroically "closed the loophole" requiring gun show attendees to register all transactions done at these shows, also put in some regulation restricting face to face sales between Oregon residents, or between Oregon and non-Oregon residents? If so, then we are dealing with state regulations, and not at the federal level. Again, specific citation of written law is wanted.
I have heard various opinions and stories.. I want to know, for certain, once and for all. And I believe it would do the members of this forum a great service to have this removed from the realm of heresay, opinion, speculation, and down to a hard and fast letter of the law.
anyone knowing more about this than I do? anyone knowing how, and willing, to dig this out?
long winded, I know, but hey, this is a complex and serious situation. If one steps afoul of the letter of the law, one could spend time in the local Greybar Hotel, and forever be prohibited from owning any firearm, possessing a concealed carry permit, or seeing one's firstborn son ever again.... I am wanting to get this right........
I know absolutely I, a Washington resident not restricted from owning firearms, can physically go into Oregon and purchase a long gun from a FFL dealer, the FBI check is done, I pay for it, put it in my car and drive it back across the I-5 bridge into my home state. I've done it, more than once. Transfer of ownership takes place within the state of Oregon, now it is my property I am free to transport it anywhere.
I also know I can attend the gun show at Expo, purchase a long gun on the floor, go to one of the FFL dealers, have the BGcheck, pay for it, and take it home. Again, ownership transfers within the state of Oregon, I am, as above, free to transport MY property anywhere.
I know, in addition, that an OREGON resident is free to purchase, face to face, from a private party, a long gun from another Oregon resident while within the state of Oregon.
Further, if a dealer or a private party in Oregon sells a long gun to a resident of Washington and SHIPS that weapon across into Washington, the sale MUST be completed through a FFL dealer. NOTE WELL--- this type of sale actually takes place across the state line, transfer of ownership does NOT take place within one state, but rather interstate.
MY QUESTION.. can I, as a Washington resident, travel into Oregon and purchase, face to face from a private party, a long gun and then legally transport the property that is now mine back into Washington, and do this legally? If not, why not, and who breaks the law? Me, for being so nasty and rebellious as to boldly transport MY property, just acquired, from Oregon into Washington, or the seller, for knowingly (or negligently unknowingly) selling such a treacherous item to a non-Oregon resident. or both?
Further, can the seller, an Oregon resident and private party, physically transport that long gun into Washington to deliver it to a FFL dealer who will then do the paperwork for a legal transfer? If so, how does THAT interstate transport differ from my buying it south of the river and bringing it into Washington as my property?
Can a Washington located FFL dealer cross into Oregon to pick up a firearm for the purpose of transporting it into Washington for a prearranged transfer to a Washington resident? Again, the change of ownership does take place across state lines.
I am not looking for hearsay, club rules, opinions (not even a lawyer's free legal opinion). I am looking for someone who can direct me to the source, by which I mean I am wanting the specific section, code number, CFR, congressional act, at the Federal level, that governs this.
Or did Oregon, when they heroically "closed the loophole" requiring gun show attendees to register all transactions done at these shows, also put in some regulation restricting face to face sales between Oregon residents, or between Oregon and non-Oregon residents? If so, then we are dealing with state regulations, and not at the federal level. Again, specific citation of written law is wanted.
I have heard various opinions and stories.. I want to know, for certain, once and for all. And I believe it would do the members of this forum a great service to have this removed from the realm of heresay, opinion, speculation, and down to a hard and fast letter of the law.
anyone knowing more about this than I do? anyone knowing how, and willing, to dig this out?
long winded, I know, but hey, this is a complex and serious situation. If one steps afoul of the letter of the law, one could spend time in the local Greybar Hotel, and forever be prohibited from owning any firearm, possessing a concealed carry permit, or seeing one's firstborn son ever again.... I am wanting to get this right........