Eagle Creek Oregon Fire

[jbett98]

Lots of hot air from our Governor this afternoon in Troutdale. No answers or facts, just platitudes for the masses.

 

[EPS]

I'm way north in ANACORTES San Juan islands can't see the sun except through a smoke haze took these pictures at about 10:00 todayView attachment 389204 View attachment 389205

Up date lol took this at 16:45 still smoking i

 

[elsie]

I've heard of ash fall out in Forest Grove and Scappose from the Eagle Creek fire.


elsie

 

[EPS]

Lots of hot air from our Governor this afternoon in Troutdale. No answers or facts, just platitudes for the masses.

CALIFORNIA Oregon and Washington basically have the same governor all of them useless liberal clowns

 

[jbett98]

Lots of talk from her about using all the tools available in the tool box.

 

[EPS]

RIGHT now the two worst fire's are the eagle creek and the chetco bar fire by BROOKINGS OR BOTH ARE OUT OF CONTROL brace yourself my friends it's going to get bad

 

[EPS]

Lots of talk from her about using all the tools available in the tool box.

Lol dumb B!+@# so out of touch she doesn't know all the tools are already being used

 

[EPS]

It's so smoky here in Spokane I wish I had a CPAP.

YEP sigmadog I travel across WA State twice a week it's been bad over there for long time because of the Montana and ID AND WA FIRES I feel you it's awful humidity in Spokane and smoking

 

[ob1]

Seems the retards don't understand the concept of "multi-thousand-acre firestorms require more than 3000-gallon (which for reference is ONE tip-tank on an old tall-tail B-52!) capacity" and won't authorize anything above that line...

Apparently there was some discussion about there not being sufficient "infra-structure" to get sufficient water to supply the big tankers. I don't get that... maybe there aren't big water mains going into the Redmond tanker field but this is not rocket science. Hell, back in the days of steam locomotives, a good sized engine tender could take on 30,000 gallons. How did they keep the trains running 70 years ago ? They built water tanks.

As for the 747 super tankers, maybe they're too for big to land at Redmond. They sure could use the Portland ANG base...but that would involve the State thinking again.

Ehhh....Let it burn, they can use the acreage to put in more free section 8 housing.

 

[parallax]

Also, it'd help if the f---wits at Forset Service would get off their dead head-lodged-up arses and clear the 747 tankers for duty...

Today at 3 p.m. I watched Gov. kate Brown get asked the question" are we going to get the 747 supertanker on these fires".
she gave a standard cookie cutter answer. its one of our tools in our tool box , we will make decisions as information comes in..,, bla,,bla bla,. but you could see after she left the podium, she was visibly shaken by the question.

 

[ob1]

she gave a standard cookie cutter answer. its one of our tools in our tool box , we will make decisions as information comes in..,, bla,,bla bla,. but you could see after she left the podium, she was visibly shaken by the question.

Go figure...

Confront an uber-lib with nuts and bolts logic...they fall apart every time.

 

[parallax]

A good option would be to get those Sikorsky CH-54 skycrane helicopters. they can get 2,500 gallons at a time, hovering,from any water source from a creek to the columbia river,,thru a snorkle tube and all they need is 14 inches of water, they can fill in less than a minute, if the water source is within a few miles they can dump hundreds of thousands gallons of water within an 8 hour day. there are 2 companies that i know of here in Oregon that have dozens of these aircraft. Heavy lift services inc.out of Aurora, and Erickson out of Medford.

 

[that guy]

Yes we do. Flip side to that will be those 2-3" rain days and the mud slides on I-84.

Was thinking about this today. It's going to be a mess for a while.

 

[CamoDeafie]

*dark humor here* on the plus side, when the fired areas return to full lush, the Hipster Portlandians and the like are gonna be dying of lung canved

Back to the topic. View going southbound on I5 from Salem on way home this afternoon. We dont have AC in apartment so tonight is gonna be interesting. Hoping for a period of heavy rain but getting the feeling it wont come until Oct

One thing for sure... this would open up a LOT of access to fall season campsites after the fires die down and things slowly get back to normal.. on the other.. the potential for a lot of dead-falls and such makes me think again.. I remember a dead tree crashing down within 50 yards of the tents at a campsite down in Wickiup Reservoir a few years ago we did harvest that tree for campfires but it got us thinking if we had picked the wrong area to camp

Edit: as for the ashes on the cars... well it gives me a good excuse to buy a small air compressor unit and resurrect my paint sprayers and paint the Kia a camouflage scheme

 

[ob1]

A good option would be to get those Sikorsky CH-54 skycrane helicopters. they can get 2,500 gallons at a time, hovering,from any water source from a creek to the columbia river,,thru a snorkle tube and all they need is 14 inches of water, they can fill in less than a minute, if the water source is within a few miles they can dump hundreds of thousands gallons of water within an 8 hour day. there are 2 companies that i know of here in Oregon that have dozens of these aircraft. Heavy lift services inc.out of Aurora, and Erickson out of Medford. yet the government will not hire them due to budgetary constraints,and they either sit idle or take there firefighting aircraft to other countries, like chile, australia, greece, italy, and south korea.

I shot these back in '03 when Arrow Head Lake and San Bernardino was in the path of a major Santa Anna blaze.
The main problem with the CH 54 is that there aren't that many still in flying condition and not enough certified pilots. They are high maintenance and cost a mint to repair the drive trains since they get abuse from all the heavy lifting, hence the high operating costs and even higher fee's to keep them up.

 

[EPS]

There aree all different types the hose hanging down can be used to suck water out of a lake or river into the tank on the bottom of the chopper witch can be dumped all at once or they can reverse the flow and dump water back through the hose for a slower more precise drop .in the old day's a helicopter would have to land in a field or some place and a hose from a truck or fire hydrant would refill them .now if there is a lake or river close by they only have to land for fuel

 

[EPS]

The big plane's that drop the red or yellow fire retardant have to land obviously but it is a mix of fire retardant and water they actually don't drop right on the fire they drop on the edge of the fire the stuff they drop is more like a mud that is meant to stop the fire from spreading

 

[The Heretic]

I've heard of ash fall out in Forest Grove and Scappose from the Eagle Creek fire.


elsie

I had a little bit up here today

 

[jbett98]

A week before the eclipse, I drove up to Olallie Lake to check out a viewing site and on the way back, I took a different route home and drove through a large burn area that happened a year or so ago and the smell was terrible.

 

[clearconscience]

Old hag brownstain said they couldn't use the supertankers because of the wind and visability, I call BS!
That troll wants to see the land burn.
Probably somehow blame hunters and/or target shooting.

The CEO was on Lars the other days saying his crew is waiting at the go to use his planes to knock down these fires but the political red tape is holding them down. he said if they don't get used here soon he'a taking his operation out of the USA.

I hope these head-up-their-anus politicians get the crap sued out there of them and the state for wasting ready resources and letting the land and people's homes burn