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Discriminated against for owning firearms by social services.

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by PlayboyPenguin, Jul 13, 2009.

  1. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    This is a repost of an event that happened to me not to long ago. It came up in another thread and another forum member wanted to hear the whole story but that thread was not the place to really discuss it...so I am reposting it here.

     
  2. emanon

    emanon SE Portland, Oregon Member

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    Thanks for sharing this! :)

    I really appreciate your desire for a better option for the kid than the "justice" system tend to provide. I'd also like to hear more about the attack if you care to share that.

    What a terribly twisted mentality that person has... Did you try discussing and/or challenging their ridiculous decision?

    As an aside, what an unfortunate turn of events that when people can finally start being more open about their sexual orientation, they have to be "closeted" about being gun-owners to avoid being discriminated against...:(:huh:
     
  3. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    And they drank deep of the Kool-Aid, and would no longer listen to reason...:(


    I tend to think it was actually your sexual orientation. I'd check into a lawyer...
     
  4. cameronhu

    cameronhu Ridgefield, Wa Member

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    Chalk another one up for the aggressively ignorant. I wonder if they consider law enforcement officers the same way....?
     
  5. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I did challenge the decision...and was well on my way to having it reversed when it became too time consuming and I had been soured on the whole organization.
     
  6. PDXGS

    PDXGS Aloha... yes, Aloha, Oregon Member

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    Out the organization. Please
    I spend a considerable amount of time and money volunteering and donating to local charities. I expect that most of them are on the up-and-up but this story gets my hackles up.

    Shameless Plug- I'd like to add a plug for the Cat Adoption Team in Sherwood. I recently met him at a fund raiser and was surprised to find out that he's a life-long gun enthusiast.
     
  7. NK777

    NK777 West of Portland Member

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    That is a fight worth fighting PP. Discrimination doesn't change unless you fight to change it.
     
  8. coctailer

    coctailer Portland, OR/Hastings, MI/Vancouver,WA I run with scissors.

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    I would go straight to OFF with this.
     
  9. BigBull 301

    BigBull 301 PDX almost Well-Known Member

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    And they wonder why they are having trouble finding mentors!!!
    Good for you for TRYING.
     
  10. thelendog

    thelendog Milwaukie Member

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    Ah, yes. I've run into that issue as well. I told them "no", as I never tell anyone that I don't know anything about my guns. It's all about the kid's safety, kinda like those billboards that say "is there a gun where your child plays? Ask."
     
  11. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    I can't really put into words how wrong and upsetting this is. I agree with coctailer, notify OFF. I'd also like to know the name of this not for profit that would discriminate against a person trying to do a good thing based on a constitutionally protected activity. We need more people in this world like you if there's any hope for humankind.
     
  12. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    Up to you, but +1. They shouldn't get a pass.

    Always nice to see someone active in a cause that can think for themselves.

    Not sucking up or anything, but +1.
     
  13. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    This is one of those situations where I feel the agency itself does so much good for so many youth in this city and I feel that it is just the pigheadedness of a few management level people that constitutes the problem. I would feel I did a horrible disservice to the community if I denied the agency a single dollar by outing them on this issue.

    I will say that a couple of people have already guessed correctly so I do not think I am the only person to have ever experienced this from them. :(
     
  14. Joe Link

    Joe Link Portland, OR Well-Known Member Staff Member Lifetime Supporter 2015 Volunteer 2016 Volunteer

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    That's understandable, you have to weigh the good and the bad. Is there anything we can do about these few management level people? Maybe superiors we could petition? I think it's an injustice to the youth that the majority of the best people I know would be barred from helping them.
     
  15. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    This all happened pretty early last year. If you went and checked now, as anyone in social services can tell you, management is likely to be completely different. Turn over is pretty high in middle management. People have to switch jobs to get pay raises and many are women who leave for family issues. I am not saying that is a sexist way. It is just a reality of the business.
     
  16. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    Sounds tailor made for the Peter Principle...
     
  17. slickx45

    slickx45 Seattle - Eastside Active Member

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    This would be all the more reason for you to continue with an appeal to the original decision. If the individuals who made and supported that ruling are no longer with the organization, then perhaps you will get a fair review.

    Why post your grievance here if you aren't willing to stand up against the injustice that you suffered? You stated that you were “well on the way to getting it reversed…..” but then you gave up only to “vent” about it here, nearly a year and a half later?

    I guess I am just failing to see the point of the post.
     
  18. ernurse

    ernurse molalla oregon Active Member

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    Playboy, sorry you had to go thru this, When we adopted a child their eyebrows were raised about the fact I ccw, But when I told them what I do for a living and the people I deal with daily they relented and gave me a pass.

    Unfortunately many in our state government think this way and perpetuate this bias against us all. To really help this orginaization you should out them and help them see the light. How many other law abiding citizens have they denied, if they let only the liberal few educate our young we are lost. But it is your decision and I respect whatever you do. Scott
     
  19. PlayboyPenguin

    PlayboyPenguin Pacific Northwest Well-Known Member 2016 Volunteer

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    I did originally appeal the decision and did get as far as being told they had no grounds to deny me and that I could reapply and would receive a reversal of the decision...but by that time I had soured on the whole idea and I was too tied up in opening our new business.

    I only posted it here now because I was asked to by another forum member.
     
  20. markw76

    markw76 Portland/Moscow on the Willamette Member

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    Yeah, it's easy to say "fight it!" when you're not in it I guess...