Did Garand Thumb change your go-to caliber? AKM vs M4 video

[Member 53328]

Oh , why can't we own grenades ( legally) . Of all the things, just a couple frags a year would make me so happy.

Frags aren't that cool. The first time we got to throw them in the military I remember thinking to myself, "That's it? Hollywood is full of sh!t man." Lol.

 

[Knobgoblin]

Frags aren't that cool. The first time we got to throw them in the military I remember thinking to myself, "That's it? Hollywood is full of sh!t man." Lol.

It's kind of what I like about them . Not dramatic, just really effective in the correct space.

 

[Member 53328]

It's kind of what I like about them . Not dramatic, just really effective in the correct space.

You mean confined space haha. Then they are wonderful!

 

[Nosferatu]

Every rifle issued by the government had to compete against other designs to see which was best.

It's always about competition.

JFC.

 

[Heyjoe]

Dad advise time: don't let some rando online tell you what to do or think.

 

[Certaindeaf]

Dad advise time: don't let some rando online tell you what to do or think.

Every gun is a barbie gun these days what with all the gewgaw of the day bought and then bolted on. meh

 

[JTK1791]

Every gun is a barbie gun these days what with all the gewgaw of the day bought and then bolted on. meh

 

[Knobgoblin]

Every gun is a barbie gun these days what with all the gewgaw of the day bought and then bolted on. meh

Smokeless powder??



Preposterous!!

 

[JeremyK]

Not a fan of "Flannel Daddy"

With that said I'll stick with 5.56.

This^

Uncle Sam spent a lot of time and money training me how to use a 5.56 AR. It's what I know, it's what I'll stick to. I'll keep my opinions on AK fanboys to myself.

 

[Knobgoblin]

This^

Uncle Sam spent a lot of time and money training me how to use a 5.56 AR. It's what I know, it's what I'll stick to. I'll keep my opinions on AK fanboys to myself.

 

[Koda]

Whats the story behind the military using "heavily" the Barnes 70g TSX all copper bullet? That there is a hunting bullet!

 

[The Heretic]

I have both.

Ever read about the tests the British did on 6-7mm at 2500 fps? They considered that the optimum caliber and most controllable.

Either way, a good soft expanding projectile from a rifle will do the job. Both 5.56 & 7.62x39 are quite popular. What it comes down to will what ammo you have.

 

[helimech206]

No, the video is hardly scientific. They are both proven rounds in proven platforms, so who cares, they both will get the job done if you do your part, so stick with what you have and train.

 

[gmerkt]

Huh. I got here by reading the "Garand Thumb" subject line. Yet, I see no discussion of same.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, soldiers who carried the M1 Rifle referred to it as, "M1 Thumb."

In my world, guys say they have the best and talk up why it is the best. Prove it

Yes, we'll never know the actual effect unless we have live, human bodies to shoot at. Which I hasten to add, I'm not advocating for hobby or research purposes. Those transparent, life-sized Visable Man dummies look expensive, don't they?

 

[ma96782]

LOL......
No 6.8 Sig for you.

Aloha, Mark

 

[Certaindeaf]

The real takeaway here is I can hit a pop can with an iron sighted 10-22 off hand at 600 yards easy.

 

[AshWilliams]

I own a number of both and I'm happy to run either / or

 

[Andy54Hawken]

To answer the OP....No.

Use whichever / whatever you like.
I would suggest that your choice in firearms and calibers be yours.....
Not ones made by some you tube dude.
Andy

 

[Longwalkhome]

Huh. I got here by reading the "Garand Thumb" subject line. Yet, I see no discussion of same.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, soldiers who carried the M1 Rifle referred to it as, "M1 Thumb."


Yes, we'll never know the actual effect unless we have live, human bodies to shoot at. Which I hasten to add, I'm not advocating for hobby or research purposes. Those transparent, life-sized Visable Man dummies look expensive, don't they?

Being old I have seen the discussions for decades. 45 vs 9mm, revolver vs auto, 762 vs 556, it's given everyone something to talk about. Hey my Glock is better than your 1911 or 40 s&w vs 45, we are a people of comparison.

My point of proving which is best is competing one against the other. Set up a match gun against gun with factory ammo and see which does the best.

Only bodies in the match are the competition.

 

[Andy54Hawken]

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.36 vs. .44
The debate rages on.

While 15 grains is the modern recommended loading from many modern vendors...
Colt , back in the day when the 1851 Navy came out suggested a loading of 20 -25 grains.
And while that don't seem too different...it does work well and provides more "Oomph " so to speak....
Andy