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Let the drivers drive a bit longer, close the scales, let some of the old timers and others who may not pass a medical because of sleep apnea, ect. drive. However, if we don't have supply then its a moot short term solution.
U.S. highway-safety regulators are suspending rules that limit daily driving hours for truck drivers moving emergency supplies such as medical equipment, hand sanitizer and food in response to the nationwide coronavirus outbreak.
 
Friday afternoon:

My husband picked up his Rx medicine at Costco and said that it was a ZOO here too.

NO parking. He came home and went later on in the day on Friday.

Thursday was crazy too. He ordered his medicine in person at Costco not via the telephone on Thursday.

The lady at the pharmacy counter said that they SOLD out of ALL of the beef in all sections but they had some pork. He only went in for his medicine and he had NO cart. You could barely use a cart or walk around anyway in this town's Costco.

So he walked back there just to SEE what was going on, he SAW IT and immediately LEFT THE STORE. LOL

The pharmacy lady told him that she, other workers and shoppers had to park in Lowes parking lot and in other places and WALK ACROSS THE STREET to Costco. The Costco workers had to go over to those other lots and pick up ALL OF THE SHOPPING CARTS!

Our BANK lady teller not the credit union one told my husband that she could see the CRAZINESS and shoppers all day long and it started BEFORE THE OFFICIAL OPENING OF THE COSTCO STORE. They have LARGE windows that face that way from her position.

Plus my husband said that the traffic was CRAZY even though it is usually crazy on Fridays and during the week at specific hours. He said that THURSDAY was like a Christmas shopping day even though we do NOT shop on Black Friday. Traffic was nuts, NO parking and rural MT people and out of state drivers were LOOKING but had NO luck for a spot.

So TH and FR were nuts. I don't know about the other days since he did not shop at Costco. He did not go out and mingle with shoppers for NO reason on SATURDAY either. We do not need any item. He did get his medicine as I said on Friday afternoon since we do NOT have his Rx meds shipped to the house - put on our porch or mailed to our US Post Office box. Costco is not too far from our home in this valley.

His OTC 2 herbal meds were already replenished. We have our Bayer aspirin and our vitamins/minerals on hand.

His breathing machine has some extra parts. I wonder how all of the breathing machines for any type of problem will be as easy to get or IN stock with all of this crapola going on?! The LAST TIME that he needed some spare extra items - we had to wait some time to get them because they came from OVERSEAS! Thank God, that I or we always plan ahead and had a couple of spares ON HAND.

He needs that or he will die. He is high risk in some other medical things but the BREATHING MACHINE is one thing that is essential for living his life.

TOO bad that we can't BUY a cheaper in PRICE breathing machine at Costco.

Costco and a few other favorite stores are close to our post office and to some of our financial institutions so HE usually tells me what he sees going on during the week and on Fridays!

The other LOCAL stores are on his way home from the gym and pool.

Cate
 
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Friday afternoon:

My husband picked up his Rx medicine at Costco and said that it was a ZOO here too.

NO parking. He came home and went later on in the day on Friday.

Thursday was crazy too. He ordered his medicine in person at Costco not via the telephone on Thursday.

The lady at the pharmacy counter said that they SOLD out of ALL of the beef in all sections but they had some pork. He only went in for his medicine and he had NO cart. You could barely use a cart or walk around anyway in this town's Costco.

So he walked back there just to SEE what was going on, he SAW IT and immediately LEFT THE STORE. LOL

The pharmacy lady told him that she, other workers and shoppers had to park in Lowes parking lot and in other places and WALK ACROSS THE STREET to Costco. The Costco workers had to go over to those other lots and pick up ALL OF THE SHOPPING CARTS!

Our BANK lady teller not the credit union one told my husband that she could see the CRAZINESS and shoppers all day long and it started BEFORE THE OFFICIAL OPENING OF THE COSTCO STORE. They have LARGE windows that face that way from her position.

Plus my husband said that the traffic was CRAZY even though it is usually crazy on Fridays and during the week at specific hours. He said that THURSDAY was like a Christmas shopping day even though we do NOT shop on Black Friday. Traffic was nuts, NO parking and rural MT people and out of state drivers were LOOKING but had NO luck for a spot.

So TH and FR were nuts. I don't know about the other days since he did not shop at Costco. He did not go out and mingle with shoppers for NO reason on SATURDAY either. We do not need any item. He did get his medicine as I said on Friday afternoon since we do NOT have his Rx meds shipped to the house - put on our porch or mailed to our US Post Office box. Costco is not too far from our home in this valley.

His OTC 2 herbal meds were already replenished. We have our Bayer aspirin and our vitamins/minerals on hand.

His breathing machine has some extra parts. I wonder how all of the breathing machines for any type of problem will be as easy to get or IN stock with all of this crapola going on?! The LAST TIME that he needed some spare extra items - we had to wait some time to get them because they came from OVERSEAS! Thank God, that I or we always plan ahead and had a couple of spares ON HAND.

He needs that or he will die. He is high risk in some other medical things but the BREATHING MACHINE is one thing that is essential for living his life.

TOO bad that we can't BUY a cheaper in PRICE breathing machine at Costco.

Costco and a few other favorite stores are close to our post office and to some of our financial institutions so HE usually tells me what he sees going on during the week and on Fridays!

The other LOCAL stores are on his way home from the gym and pool.

Cate
My Mom gets her meds from Costco which is about an hour away, but picks them up at a Bimart which is 3 blocks away from her.
 
This was on the news earlier on Saturday:


Grocers limit food purchases, urge shoppers not to hoard as panic buying continues. Kroger ramps up hiring
Published Sat, Mar 14 20202:53 PM EDTUpdated Sat, Mar 14 20208:56 PM EDT

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Walmart reduces hours at US stores to keep up with surge of shoppers
Published Sat, Mar 14 20208:30 PM EDTUpdated Sat, Mar 14 20209:09 PM EDT

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I do not know if our LOCAL grocery stores other than the top ones in the news have limited or CUT BACK on their hours or not. We do not have a Kroger here but I had them in my former state.

My bakery in one grocery store is on the other end of town. It is a well known store in the PNW. I like their French bread, Jewish Rye and black bread. My husband drives right by there on his way home from the gym and pool.

Side note: One store on the internet had a posting. I was curious so I took a look at it.


Online sales temporarily suspended on ammo, primers, & powder. | Visit store for availability.

WE do not need any item. WE do not shop online and order online. WE do look at things online.

I did NOT check all of the other stores IN person or ONLINE out of curiosity but I have seen where people could NOT find some products even a month or so ago that they usually found easily.

OTHER products have been out there and are STILL OUT THERE if you need them. In store and online from other places that I have seen posted here and elsewhere.

Old Lady Cate
 
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I am getting a kick out of the memes from twitter where people show an empty shelf isle and a stocked shelf isle next to it explaining that "capitalism looks an awful lot like socialism".

Had a feeling this was coming sooner or later. Strike while the irons hot I guess with these folks?.

The HUGE difference is that under capitalism, the producers of TP have a massive incentive to resupply stores and this is merely a temporarily panic purchase situation which will easily be caught back up when people stop buying years worth of toilet paper and hoarding it.

While under socialism - the government controlled means of production and distribution of toilet paper has no inherent incentive to get TP to the customers right away.
 
The HUGE difference is that under capitalism, the producers of TP have a massive incentive to resupply stores and this is merely a temporarily panic purchase situation which will easily be caught back up when people stop buying years worth of toilet paper and hoarding it.

While under socialism - the government controlled means of production and distribution of toilet paper has no inherent incentive to get TP to the customers right away.
There are lots of people in this nation yearning for Socialism.
 
My wife started the panic thing. Even though we have stuff.
I reminded her that I fix trucks for a living and um.. freight has not stopped moving.
Just relax, sit back and wait till they restock in a couple of days.
I suppose no 60" big screens for tax returns this year.
I wonder how many CC's got maxed out the last few days?
 
A couple of the stores over here in BFE have zero milk/half-half or eggs.
I rolled through Homedale late Friday afternoon on my way home from a job in Spokane and stopped in to pick up a loaf of french bread for dinner. It was maybe 20% busier than a typical Friday afternoon and shelves weren't noticeably emptier. Didn't see any carts full of panic items and lots of guys with nothing but a case of beer for the weekend.
Buuut...the checker said it had been steady like that since Thursday around 3 and never really let up. He also said they were getting lots of people driving from Boise because there were shortages there. I just told him I was going home to make popcorn.
 
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My Mom gets her meds from Costco which is about an hour away, but picks them up at a Bimart which is 3 blocks away from her.

BiMart closed their pharmacies. ??

The HUGE difference is that under capitalism, the producers of TP have a massive incentive to resupply stores and this is merely a temporarily panic purchase situation which will easily be caught back up when people stop buying years worth of toilet paper and hoarding it.
Man I sure hope you're right about this. :( I'm only getting my news on this fuster-cluck from the board here. Reading some/parts of the links, and reading members discussions. I tried tuning into CNN last night because the guide said "Facts & information", but it was the usual, emotional garbage from MSM. :mad:

We're pretty much daily, every other day, shoppers in this household. I still buy large pork roasts, and family pack chicken thighs and have about 15#s of that. Also a bunch of frozen perch from vacation last year. Plus a bunch of canned beans and dry beans.

These hoarders that insist on spending their every penny on filling their houses with supplies are going to make it bad for everyone.
 
Some family members of mine have went to costco 3 times this week and never did Get tp . But they work in the day.They said today it was worse than ever . No rice ,beans , cleaning stuff hand sand ,or tp and nowhere to park.with checkout lines to the very back of the store.They never had to think ahead , there was always several stores in a short radius of home . I warned them several times to not run on a skeleton supplie of. Food , receiving a eye roll , Ive usually lived at least semi rural and being caught without some things could be a issue when the closest store or gas is 20 miles

I have two ex-girlfriends that scoffed and ridiculed me for my prep attitude since 2008. I was a very good boy scout and prepared to troubled times. One ex gf is retired and single, with next to nothing in her apartment, the second, unemployed for nearly 4 years on disability and a very thin, self-imposed food pantry. She walked out of the relationship last fall.

Here is the idea; the sheep do not get the big picture, nor have foresight, while others get the big picture and have foresight. The latter plans ahead and the former is reactionary.
 
BiMart closed their pharmacies. ??


Man I sure hope you're right about this. :( I'm only getting my news on this fuster-cluck from the board here. Reading some/parts of the links, and reading members discussions. I tried tuning into CNN last night because the guide said "Facts & information", but it was the usual, emotional garbage from MSM. :mad:

We're pretty much daily, every other day, shoppers in this household. I still buy large pork roasts, and family pack chicken thighs and have about 15#s of that. Also a bunch of frozen perch from vacation last year. Plus a bunch of canned beans and dry beans.

These hoarders that insist on spending their every penny on filling their houses with supplies are going to make it bad for everyone.

I continue to not understand the thought process that people are going around panic buying. Imagine if everyone turned off the news and just lived their lives. They would be shopping like normal. Consider it from an economic perspective - no store keeps on hand a massive supply of basic goods enough to supply "the masses" if they are buying years worth of goods over the span of days. They keep enough on hand to supply their regular volume of purchases, because anything extra costs them extra to store / maintain, rotate, etc. The supply chain will catch back up eventually, and especially if people quit acting like the production of toilet paper will be significantly impacted by a likely small percentage of people being sick.

To be honest, I perceive this, (more than anything) to be a heavily overinflated news driven panic coordinated to destabilize the country, make Trump look bad, and hide how terrible D candidates are behind a veil of virus news coverage. All the Russia collision and other attempted scandals thrown at Trump fell on their face and died, something new had to take it's place. It's not that the virus isn't real, it is, but the sensationalized panic is just that.

I saw recently that Hillary Clinton is court ordered to be deposed by Judicial watch about the private email sever and other related treasonous acts, we've also got pedo Joe Biden saying some of the dumbest stuff in the history of politics and also lying about what he has already said, seemingly forgetting video/internet technology today can easily pull up the video, but luckily for them 24//7 virus scare news reels are running and much of the public is too stupid or preoccupied following stupid people to care.
 
To be honest, I perceive this, (more than anything) to be a heavily overinflated news driven panic coordinated to destabilize the country, make Trump look bad, and hide how terrible D candidates are behind a veil of virus news coverage. All the Russia collision and other attempted scandals thrown at Trump fell on their face and died, something new had to take it's place. It's not that the virus isn't real, it is, but the sensationalized panic is just that.

Thousands of dead Italians would politely, disagree. :(
 
Thousands of dead Italians would politely, disagree. :(

What about their population / health system has led to significant death? Also, what are the age ranges and health history of the deceased?

Are we talking about healthy people in age range 4-40? Or are we talking about 80+ and immune compromised folks. I'd imagine countries who have multi-generation communal style homes where everyone lives with grandparents and great grandparents are going to have a rough time.

Elderly and immune compromised are definitely needing to be careful, but that also is generally always the case for them, if 1 foot is already in the grave and 1 foot is on a banana peel, it doesn't take much to finish the job.
 
Thousands of dead Italians would politely, disagree. :(

I'd believe the disease is a very serious thing, however, it sure is timed perfect for the MSM to do what they do best. Push an agenda. MSM is scum! I would of hoped that someone like Tucker Carlson (Who I have been enjoying somewhat) would have lifted himself above the other scum, but he's right there with them from what little I could stand last night.

Here's a spooky thing to look at.
USDA ERS - Agricultural Trade

Hey, I know, let's keep reproducing people, and importing more food from other countries!
 
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In my neck of the woods, Tualatin Hills Parks and Recreation District shut down all of the gyms pools and tennis facilities until further notice. They have dozens all over the area here.
 

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