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Converting replica black powder handguns to fire actual cartridge ammo

Discussion in 'Handgun Discussion' started by souore, Nov 29, 2015.

  1. souore

    souore Southern Oregon New Member

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    Hi there, has anyone ever heard of converting replica black powder handguns to being able to use actually rounds rather than black powder and balls. I'd love any info, someone told me once that it's possible but now I can't fin any info on it. Thanks.
     
  2. ma96782

    ma96782 Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Google: Kirst Conversion

    Aloha, Mak
     
  3. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Yep possible you just need the proper cylinder. And it has to be properly fit the revolver. Be sure to follow the cylinder makers recommendations on loads. OR BOOM.
     
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  4. AndyinEverson

    AndyinEverson Everson, Wa. Well-Known Member

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    Also I suggest that you do not convert a brass framed revolver.
    As much as I like cap and ball revolvers , I have both replica and original ones and I do know that many conversions were done in the 1800's , you do need to be careful. These guns were designed to be shot as cap and ball , not as cartridge guns.
    You can safely convert a cap and ball to cartridge , but I think its better to get a cartridge gun if you want to shoot cartridges.
    Andy
     
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  5. erudne

    erudne The Pie Matrix PPL Say Sleeping W/Your Rifle Is A bad Thing? Bronze Supporter

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    The conversion costs more than a new 9mm
     
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  6. David Bowman

    David Bowman Beaverton OR Archer Defense Concepts

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    Why would you want to do that?

    Seems like that would be like trying to convert your socket wrenches to also be pipe wrenches.
     
  7. jbett98

    jbett98 NW Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    Watch this video and then consider if it's worth the effort.

     
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  8. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    Just do it!
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  9. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    So this thread brings up a question - since you can buy the black powder pistol without an FFL, if you convert it, you are now creating a firearm. I'm assuming, perhaps, the OP's intent is to own a 'firearm' without owning a 'firearm' ;) So what happens then? Are you allowed to convert it as if you were building your own firearm, such as with an 80% lower? Just curious.
     
  10. souore

    souore Southern Oregon New Member

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    Avoiding an ffl is part of the desire. I own a number of registered firearms, but am none to happy about that new law. It was a pretty sneaky move
     
  11. etrain16

    etrain16 Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    I kind of figured that. But, the market for 80% projects seems to be growing. You can already get 80% AR's in multiple calibers including .223/5.56, .308, 300 Blackout, etc. You can also get 10/22 80% lowers, 1911 80% lowers and coming very soon, even a Glock 80% lower. Maybe someone will find a way to do an 80% revolver project.

    I suspect as more and more states step WAY over the line in stealing our rights from under our noses, the fine ingenuity of the American people (well, those that still believe in individual liberty and freedom), will find ways to combat these politicians and voters that would rather live in a communist country.

    'Murica!!! :s0042: :s0106: :s0019: :s0022: :s0014:
     
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  12. Sgt Nambu

    Sgt Nambu Oregon Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    ^^^^Whut? All three of us?:cool:
     
  13. Medic!

    Medic! What just happened? Has eagle eyes. But cant remember what he saw. Bronze Supporter

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    :rolleyes:Never mind.
     
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  14. deadeye

    deadeye Albany,OR. Moderator Staff Member

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  15. RVTECH

    RVTECH LaPine Well-Known Member

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    Same here but NEVER have ever considered a conversion myself. I always considered conversions as a historical 'stepping stone' - basically as a procedure from a bygone era IE one that would allow someone to continue to 'use' their existing C & B revolver until a more modern firearm could be had - and certainly nothing that seems very practical (or safe) by today's standards.
     
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    66PonyCar Tigard, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  17. Mark W.

    Mark W. Silverton, OR Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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  18. Velzey

    Velzey Estacada, Oregon Gunsmith Gunsmith Bronze Vendor Bronze Supporter

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    This is a "loophole" that has been overlooked so far.

    Yep, you can go get a black powder pistol, order up a conversion cylinder and in 2 days have a center fire cylinder. And no paperwork......
     
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  19. Brutus57

    Brutus57 Skagit County Well-Known Member

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    SHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

    Brutus Out
     
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  20. tac

    tac UK, Oregon and Ontario. Well-Known Member

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    Just thought I'd drop this in to the pot for a bit of interest.........and no, it wasn't mine. It belonged to ol' One Eye George...



    tac