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Yep, they're stuck between police-hating hippies on one side and tax-hating conservatives on the other.
Soooo,,,,,you want to give them more money so they can be more effective in violating your rights?
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Yep, they're stuck between police-hating hippies on one side and tax-hating conservatives on the other.
Soooo,,,,,you want to give them more money so they can be more effective in violating your rights?
Trying to come up with something to add to this conversation that is just short of being argumentative, but its difficult. Understanding that there are rotten apples in Law Enforcement, it seems like...
I don't know, but I don't agree with all the LEO bashing that goes on here sometimes. Its not so bad when someone makes a comment about a specific action by a specific LEO, but then everyone starts in on rumors and the "this is what I heard" stories. Sad. LEO's are as valuable to this country as its soldiers but get zero respect (although some deserve the ridicule).
I'm not saying its not right or that you shouldn't post your opinions, but how about some stories of the great things our LEO's do every day...
I don't know, but I don't agree with all the LEO bashing that goes on here sometimes. Its not so bad when someone makes a comment about a specific action by a specific LEO, but then everyone starts in on rumors and the "this is what I heard" stories. Sad. LEO's are as valuable to this country as its soldiers but get zero respect (although some deserve the ridicule).
I'm not saying its not right or that you shouldn't post your opinions, but how about some stories of the great things our LEO's do every day...
I think LEOs get PLENTY of respect in this country, along with plenty of criticism. Both are justified. All too often, though, LEOs use the fact that they preform an important public service and do a job that can be dangerous and unpleasant to avoid justified criticism.
If LEO's would simply clean house internally and cull out the bad apples on their own when individuals clearly need attitude adjustments, they wouldn't have to complain about lack of public support and folks like ZachS likely wouldn't feel compelled to reach out to their fellow public members with a thread like this.
Yep... just like bad teachers, it seems like bad cops never get fired. Despite the fact that these jobs are most definitely not for everyone, it seems like it almost takes a felony conviction for bad teacher or a bad cop to lose their job. And their superiors are either happy to let their bad behavior slide or too intimidated by their unions and civil service protections to take the actions that need to be taken.
There's no similarly sensitive job in the private sector where an employee can get away with anywhere near the same level of malfeasance and not get fired.
The need to make a profit and stay in business weeds out the liabilities unfortunately the public sector as a whole is exempt from the realities of the real world.
Regarding police officers not knowing (or obeying) the Oregon laws, I hope everyone knows that it is STILL illegal in Oregon to have boxing matches with kangaroos.....................elsullo
I was NOT implying that policemen are kangaroos. I was talking about the large, bipedal marsupials from Australia, and there really is an Oregon law against boxing with them.........................elsullo
Yep... just like bad teachers, it seems like bad cops never get fired. Despite the fact that these jobs are most definitely not for everyone, it seems like it almost takes a felony conviction for bad teacher or a bad cop to lose their job. And their superiors are either happy to let their bad behavior slide or too intimidated by their unions and civil service protections to take the actions that need to be taken.
And their superiors are either happy to let their bad behavior slide or too intimidated by their unions and civil service protections to take the actions that need to be taken.