CCW and Weed Card?

[GUNARCHER]

I'm thinking that Hawaii stopped the gun grab because they were using MEDICAL records to establish a list of users-----at the same time they were creating a list of citizens and their health defects, which is a violation of the HIPPA law privacy concerns.

 

[KKG]

I'm thinking that Hawaii stopped the gun grab because they were using MEDICAL records to establish a list of users-----at the same time they were creating a list of citizens and their health defects, which is a violation of the HIPPA law privacy concerns.

I'd say it's much more likely that they found themselves "Stepping on the Toes" of somebody who would have been very embarrassed if their name(s) had been made public.

 

[jsparks747]

Not sure how i managed to post it like that. I apologies for the mess up

You can just delete your posts. No biggie. We deal with a Stomper on a regular basis.

 

[RicInOR]

I'd rather not have my good judgement be questioned at said trial.

While I agree with the sentiment. If you at your backyard BBQ and have to defend your family, should you be found guilty because your blow over .00 for alcohol ?

 

[No_Regerts]

While I agree with the sentiment. If you at your backyard BBQ and have to defend your family, should you be found guilty because your blow over .00 for alcohol ?

Impairment isn't really the issue. Its whether you have something in your system that instantly prohibits your possession of a firearm. YMMV depending on where you live.

 

[Slobray]

Then the first time I actually walked in one of the shops with one of my kids. Counter guy was showing her all the "kinds". I was shocked at the damn price. When he asked me I said when I was using this stuff it was $10 and ounce. The kid looked at me like I was trying to sell him a bridge.

I imagine he would have looked at you like you had a dick growing out of your forehead if you would have said it was "$10 a lid" or "$10 for four fingers"..........


Ray

 

[Argonaut]

While I agree with the sentiment. If you at your backyard BBQ and have to defend your family, should you be found guilty because your blow over .00 for alcohol ?

Alcohol is not illegal, neither is having a gun while drinking unless you are possibly a law enforcement officer. It could help in a wrongful death suit but that is in civil (liar's) court.

 

[Vettewine]

Ask the mods if they'll delete this thread for you. In the future, NEVER admit to anything in public unless under specific instructions from your lawyer.

The state laws today may not be the same in the future, and the federal government could change their policy about pursuing certain issues at any time.

I agree with PiratePast40 on this and see if you can get this entire post deleted as it could be subpoenaed by a court order.

 

[Vettewine]

I imagine he would have looked at you like you had a dick growing out of your forehead if you would have said it was "$10 a lid" or "$10 for four fingers"..........


Ray

Hmmm... Back when I was in college it was only $75 per "key" (kilo) and they weighed 3+ lbs. (I am probably older than you, though...!

 

[Heyjoe]

Haha not quite, more interested really. So bottom line it would be unwise/unlawfully for my Dad to get a firearm or apply for a CCW due to the possibly lying on the form regarding marijuana use. His only option no longer using it for say a month until it's out of his system and no longer wishes to use it again.

This brings up another question, my Dad only has about... 2 buds at a time in his possession. Say he were to smoke it in the house, and I was in the room for about 30 minutes thus inhaling it secondhand. Later that night I had to use my firearm in defense, would I be positive even though I didn't smoke it myself? Or if I was tested as positive would I be convicted of using a firearm while under the effects of an illegal drug according to the feds?

Another scenario would be say he smoked it before bed and I was not in the room to inhale any of it. Say later that night someone broke in and I had to use a firearm in lawful defense. Would this create a difficult situation in court if it was brought up that I, a legal owner who did not smoke, was in possession of a firearm only accessible to me while in the residence of someone who did although to a very small degree?

I wouldn't worry about second hand high or failing a ua from second hand smoke.
As stated, you'd really have to try for that to take place.
Good question though!another would be if you are legally obligated to let LE search your home just because you had to defend yourself in said. @noregerts any thoughts?

 

[Argonaut]

I wouldn't worry about second hand high or failing a ua from second hand smoke.
As stated, you'd really have to try for that to take place.
Good question though!another would be if you are legally obligated to let LE search your home just because you had to defend yourself in said. @noregerts any thoughts?

I hardly think LE would have a difficult time getting a judge to sighn a search warrant if there was any kind of shooting.

 

[Heyjoe]

Point taken. Doesn't make sense to me though, I guess for the sake of investigation.

 

[Mecanik]

To put this all to rest and quit worrying about getting caught doing weed and owning a firearm. If you want your weed that bad then sell all your firearms and go do your weed. Otherwise you're walking a dangerous line and you could end up a felon. If you want your firearms then quit doing weed altogether and be a productive part of society. Like they say you can't have your cake and eat it too.

 

[Heyjoe]

nd be a productive part of society. Like they say you can't have your cake and eat it too

You had me till this sentence. MANY productive members of our society use marijuana. It's not one or the other.

 

[John Brown]

Simple solution. Never admit to anyone that you smoke pot. It's none of anyone's goddam business.

 

[Mecanik]

It's none of anyone's goddam business.

I would disagree as it's not quite the same as being gay or practicing a religion. It's totally illegal by federal law and can ruin your life if you allow yourself to be caught up in it. Until the federal government deems it a legal drug it's the business of law enforcement to administer judicial enforcement. Owning a firearm and habitually using a mind altering drug is dangerous for you and those around you. Same with alcohol, a habitual drunkard should not possess or even own a firearm in my opinion. A firearm is something that requires sound judgement anytime it's in someone's possession or even accessible. It may sound old fashioned but "weed" is still "dope" in my opinion.

 

[Theme57]

To clear things up a little, I don't smoke myself nor do I have anything I personally own that would make something think so. It's my Dad who smokes, although very little. I think I get the gist. So long as I don't smoke, owning a firearm is no biggy and don't have anything to worry about when apply for a ccw. In the case of using it for self defense either in the home or on the street (something I hope never happens, but would be ready nonetheless) I am fairly safe in terms of any possible charges for use of drugs or being under the influence of a federally illegal, yet state legal, drug.

If my Dad wanted to apply for CCW or have a firearm, he would need to toss his pipes, and never smoke the bud again if he ever, I would assume at least for a month beforehand so it's out of his system. He COULD lie on the form, but doing so would be illegal and in the event he had to use a firearm it would not go so well as I think tests show weed usage as high as three weeks.

I think this answers all my questions. Now I just need to look on where I can apply for my CCW

 

[Certaindeaf]

Impairment isn't really the issue. Its whether you have something in your system that instantly prohibits your possession of a firearm. YMMV depending on where you live.

What? So if you pop a deserving cretin and you "blow" over a driving limit yer done/executed? What if your IQ is below 100 (half of the population of the planet by definition?).
You would hang the defender and let loose the attacker?

 

[PiratePast40]

What? So if you pop a deserving cretin and you "blow" over a driving limit yer done/executed? What if your IQ is below 100 (half of the population of the planet by definition?).
You would hang the defender and let loose the attacker?

That's the way the law reads. It's not about impairment, it's about measuring the presence of substances in your body.

 

[No_Regerts]

What? So if you pop a deserving cretin and you "blow" over a driving limit yer done/executed? What if your IQ is below 100 (half of the population of the planet by definition?).
You would hang the defender and let loose the attacker?

Not saying it doesn't suck. It just is.