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BUNDY RANCH TYPE STANDOFF BREWING IN SOUTHERN OREGON BETWEEN MINERS AND BLM

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by Ttuck, Apr 12, 2015.

  1. Ttuck

    Ttuck Hillsboro Bronze Supporter Bronze Supporter

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    April 11th, 2015



    For the past several years, the miners from the Galice Mining District, about 3o minutes west of Grants Pass, Oregon, have been arguing over who has the rights to the minerals in the ground around Galice Creek. The Galice mining district is compiled of a number of claims, owners and miners and has been in continuous operation since the early 1870’s, which makes it one of the longest running operations in the US. This specific operation predates the BLM bureaucracy by many decades in fact.

    The area in question has produced in excess of 10 million ounces of gold since its conception, and geologists estimate that only 10% of the gold in the ground has been removed, which makes this area highly sought after by any standard. It is said that children find gold with their hands in the creeks to this day.

    BLM has made several attempts to disband the operation through violations that claim improper paperwork filing, ruling changes over time, and other unsubstantiated claims. The miners of this district have spend tens of thousands of dollars to date to fighting the BLM in the courts and other avenues. The district has made requests to produce the official rulings that show they are in violation which have gone unanswered. They simple reason given by the BLM is that “they say so”.

    Late last week, BLM officials accompanied by Josephine County Sheriff deputies issues a cease and desist order to the district without any official ruling by the courts. Specifically, the issue is not even scheduled to be heard in court until later in the year. The order has given the miners until April 25th to remove all equipment, buildings and supplies from the mine. Local BLM officials have threatened to burn the buildings down if they are not removed by the date.

    The people in this district have stated that they will fully disobey the order as they claim that it is illegal and invalid. A call for assistance to the Oath Keeper’s and other State Militia groups has been made and there is no intention to leave the area by the deadline.

    This issue has far reaching implications. The outcome from this issue and the court ruling to come will effect all of America. The issue at hand is not just about the Galice Miners and the gold in the ground, but more about what the government says you can do with the ground in your control. These miners have the rights to the minerals in the ground and the government wants that changed. What comes next could effect every American. What if your backyard has a specific mineral that the government values. By any means, can come in and tell you that you can not grow your broccoli on your land because it absorbs this “special” mineral? The bigger picture would effect farmers. What if gold, oil, or something like uranium was found under a farmer’s corn crop. Does the government have the right to those minerals and have the ability to over ride your use of your own land? This issue will have the ability dictate the future use of our public and private lands.
     
  2. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Gov control in America is becoming Soviet in style more by the day.
    The mineral rights belong to those that have them and not the government.
    That fight has been fought and won a thousand times.
     
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  3. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    I get the feeling we'll be seeing a lot more of these standoffs in WA and OR.
     
  4. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    I seem to recall the government gave themselves the right to steal your land whenever they want. It's called eminent domain.
     
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  5. Dyjital

    Dyjital Albany, Ore Flavorite Member Bronze Supporter

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    Going to watch this thread, please keep the updates coming @Ttuck
     
  6. coastal steelheader

    coastal steelheader Aberdeen Well-Known Member

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    My big fear isn't necessarily the Feds, but the largely liberal populations of Portland and Seattle attempting to bend the rest of their states populations to their wills. If anything I think I'd much rather deal with the Feds than the out of control socialists in Seattle.
     
  7. Just Jim

    Just Jim Well-Known Member

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    :D Not to worry, they will be mostly pot heads in a few years and won't give a crap what happens as long as they get their pot. The whole left coast will be so full of pot there won't be a dorito left.
     
  8. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Can the miners provide deed and title to the land if not it isnt thier land plain and simple.
     
  9. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    That is a land grabbers (government) point of view.
    They have had claims for more than a century in most cases.

    THEY have the mineral rights and most have had since 1849.
    Records are in each mining district and the damned government is coming in and trying to abolish each mining district after all this time. To me that is pure theft by government as is their usual practice. The miners still own the mineral rights.
     
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    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Then they should be able to prove it otherwise you are supporting squatters. They new thiscday was coming they had 150 years tp document their property.
     
  11. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Show me a deed to those rights and I will support them.
     
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  12. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    They have their claims recorded and they are valid until the gov steals them also.
    BLM stole the land from the people that had the claims.
    The miners were there long long before the BLM.

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  13. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Go ask them. Don't pull an Alinsky on me.
    I don't have them to show you.
    Go ask the people that have the claims.
    You need to read the history of the area, it is available in abundance.
    Search it out !
     
  14. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    If they as you say have the mineral rights documented then it should be a knowm issue. If they dont have them legally recorded - so sad too badm
     
  15. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    They would not be there had they not had the claims.
    You need to read about mining, mining rights and claims
    and what it takes to get a claim. I am not going around this
    damned daisy chain with you. Go learn.
    Done here.
     
  16. JRuby

    JRuby St. Helens Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Excuse me none issue.
     
  17. Xader

    Xader Columbia Gorge, Oregon Member

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    Galice has the mining claims on that land dating back to 1876.

    The 1955 Surface Resources Act grants exclusive rights to such claims. The BLM has shown NO legal claim that those rights have been severed. All requests for documentation have been stonewalled. FOIA requests have been either ignored, or responded with heavily redacted documents.

    Many are recognizing that this is an effort by BLM to establish a precedent to strip private entities of property rights.

    The Oath Keepers and Oregon III% have mobilized to assist Galice in protecting their mines.
     
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  18. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    ROFLMAO...................
     
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  19. U201491

    U201491 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah it is like everything else the BLM gets involved in. Just legalized thievery and control.
     
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    U201491 Well-Known Member

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