Base Camp owner plea deal on SBR

[The Nothing]

Portland brewery owner who called 911 to complain about homeless admits having illegal rifle

As part of a plea deal, the Base Camp Brewing Company owner will be sentenced on the weapon charge, which is a class B felony, in February. If he successfully completes the alcohol treatment and complies with other conditions, the offense will be treated as a misdemeanor.

Someone has a good attorney if you ask me. SBR felony to be dropped down to a misdemeanor

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[ZA_Survivalist]

So are we absolutely sure it wasnt a pistol with a brace?

 

[Slobray]

So are we absolutely sure it wasnt a pistol with a brace?

If it was a pistol with a brace, you would've thought that any semi-decent lawyer could argue that easily and been able to get the SBR charge dropped.


Ray

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

If it was a pistol with a brace, you would've thought that any semi-decent lawyer could argue that easily and been able to get the SBR charge dropped.


Ray

You know how courts are, they ram charges down the defendants throat long before they have a chance to voice their side. Also, if he (the defendant) isnt familiar with firearms and firearm laws he may be accepting a charge that isn't just. Especially if the arresting leo thought a shockwave brace was a stock as woukd the judge. Their extremely limited firearm knowledge (in general) is quite scary seeings how they are in positions of power.

Wish there was a picture to show us the firearm in quesion.

 

[Camelfilter]

Yeah, sounds kinda hokey.

Really really good attorney (SBR), or really really bad attorney (pistol / brace).

 

[Camelfilter]

Yeah, sounds kinda hokey.

Really really good attorney (if SBR), or really really bad attorney (pistol/brace).

If it is a pistol/brace, that could set a very bad precedent.

 

[Slobray]

You know how courts are, they ram charges down the defendants throat long before they have a chance to voice their side. Also, if he (the defendant) isnt familiar with firearms and firearm laws he may be accepting a charge that isn't just. Especially if the arresting leo thought a shockwave brace was a stock as woukd the judge. Their extremely limited firearm knowledge (in general) is quite scary seeings how they are in positions of power.

Wish there was a picture to show us the firearm in quesion.

True, without a picture and/or a true description of the firearm in question, everything we post here is all speculation.

My thoughts on this subject are as follows:

If the defendant bought a complete pistol w/brace at a LGS, someone would have gone to the store to confirm the guns legality (either the defendant or his attorney asking why they sold him said gun or the anti gun Multnomah County DA trying to bring down a gun store for selling SBR's illegally.) and the LGS would have set them straight on the law, resulting in the SBR charge being dropped. I would think that the same/similar situation above would play out if he got it from a friend or relative and possibly after SB941.

or

If the defendant put together a pistol w/brace himself, he had to know enough of the law to buy a brace instead of a regular stock.

Now if he bought it from some stranger before SB 941, then I could see how the lack of knowledge is very plausible.


Just my 2 cents.

Ray

 

[bolus]

True, without a picture and/or a true description of the firearm in question, everything we post here is all speculation.

My thoughts on this subject are as follows:

If the defendant bought a complete pistol w/brace at a LGS, someone would have gone to the store to confirm the guns legality (either the defendant or his attorney asking why they sold him said gun or the anti gun Multnomah County DA trying to bring down a gun store for selling SBR's illegally.) and the LGS would have set them straight on the law, resulting in the SBR charge being dropped. I would think that the same/similar situation above would play out if he got it from a friend or relative and possibly after SB941.

or

If the defendant put together a pistol w/brace himself, he had to know enough of the law to buy a brace instead of a regular stock.

Now if he bought it from some stranger before SB 941, then I could see how the lack of knowledge is very plausible.


Just my 2 cents.

Ray

If the article is correct, he met the police at his home drunk and holding a weapon.

Hanlon's razor applies. "Never assume malice when stupidity will suffice"

I would bet a tidy sum that he did not know what an SBR is.

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

True, without a picture and/or a true description of the firearm in question, everything we post here is all speculation.

My thoughts on this subject are as follows:

If the defendant bought a complete pistol w/brace at a LGS, someone would have gone to the store to confirm the guns legality (either the defendant or his attorney asking why they sold him said gun or the anti gun Multnomah County DA trying to bring down a gun store for selling SBR's illegally.) and the LGS would have set them straight on the law, resulting in the SBR charge being dropped. I would think that the same/similar situation above would play out if he got it from a friend or relative and possibly after SB941.

or

If the defendant put together a pistol w/brace himself, he had to know enough of the law to buy a brace instead of a regular stock.

Now if he bought it from some stranger before SB 941, then I could see how the lack of knowledge is very plausible.


Just my 2 cents.

Ray

You have a valid point. Most guys buying the brace would know exactly what it was and defend their legal ownership tooth and nail. I know I would.

 

[gaijinsamurai]

You know how courts are, they ram charges down the defendants throat long before they have a chance to voice their side. Also, if he (the defendant) isnt familiar with firearms and firearm laws he may be accepting a charge that isn't just. Especially if the arresting leo thought a shockwave brace was a stock as woukd the judge. Their extremely limited firearm knowledge (in general) is quite scary seeings how they are in positions of power.

Wish there was a picture to show us the firearm in quesion.

x2.

Multnomah County has a history of being Anti-Second Amendment, and they will do whatever they can get away with, in the absence of a good defense attorney.

 

[uscsoldier]

So are we absolutely sure it wasnt a pistol with a brace?

I was very curious about this case so I sent some time at the court house. After sitting in on a few of the hearings I can attest it was not a brace

 

[v0lcom13sn0w]

You have a valid point. Most guys buying the brace would know exactly what it was and defend their legal ownership tooth and nail. I know I would.

hence why my atf letter that came with my shockwave brace comes with me in my range bag.