Banning optics next?

[Longwalkhome]

I'm kicking around a Luger.

Lugers are fun.

 

[solv3nt]

Lugers are fun.

Any particular manufacturer?

 

[RX-79G]

That's what they have been marketed as. The actual reason IMO, and many share is that... it's all about controlling the people so they cannot resist the Government. It is an extension of a Hobbesian government model where the Government/State is sovereign over the people and where the people are either subjects, outlaws or criminals. If the State/Government were serious about controlling criminals, they wouldn't be releasing violent criminals without bail, they would be keeping them locked up for life, and they would also take steps to ensure that gang activities ceases.. but none of that has happened. Why? Because gun laws do not affect criminals at all, but disproportionately affects law abiding citizens.

That is frankly nonsense. Liberals don't want a totalitarian state. Both sides passed gun control because of specific crimes or crime statistics. Both sides.

 

[Koda]

If you can't see gow allowing a flood of loaded guns in public is not a loss for pro gun control people, I don't think anything is going to make sense.

A flood of loaded guns? Where is that happening, only a very few of society overall actually carries a gun in public.

Suggesting that they suffered a loss for not getting their way without giving something else up is like saying a theif suffered a loss if his victim refused and fought back. Taking away another persons rights is not a compromise in any way.

 

[CamoDeafie]

*coughs COVID-19 coughs*

 

[Longwalkhome]

Any particular manufacturer?

Most of the old ones run great if taken care of. Some need a new spring kit. Years ago I bought a WWII bringback that suffered some finish problems so the price was right. Fun to shoot and being an old man that loves history it's a pleasure to own a piece of the times.

 

[Member 53328]

Some of you live in Fantasy Land.

 

[Koda]

That is frankly nonsense. Liberals don't want a totalitarian state. Both sides passed gun control because of specific crimes or crime statistics. Both sides.

Its not nonsense. Liberals want a total socialist state. But thats the antithesis of individual liberties. Theres some truth in both topics here, your correct the majority of gun control is driven by crime, but not all. Historically governments have always controlled or prohibited arms as a means of control...

 

[Longwalkhome]

Some of you live in Fantasy Land.

it's better than the real world.

 

[Member 53328]

it's better than the real world.

Their fantasy world is what has created the world we currently live in. They are just delusional.

 

[TTSX]

400+ million guns. 150-250+ million armed citizens.

Something about those numbers doesn't seem right. It's implying that almost every gun owner owns 1-2 guns and I don't know any gun owners that don't own at least high single digits, maybe even several dozen or 100+. Or do they count a family of 5 as 5 gun owners if just dad owns a shotgun? I would think either the number of guns out there is way, WAY higher or the amount of gun owners is much smaller...

 

[ma96782]

Optics are evil because snipers use them.

Aloha, Mark

 

[CamoDeafie]

Something about those numbers doesn't seem right. It's implying that almost every gun owner owns 1-2 guns and I don't know any gun owners that don't own at least high single digits, maybe even several dozen or 100+. Or do they count a family of 5 as 5 gun owners if just dad owns a shotgun? I would think either the number of guns out there is way, WAY higher or the amount of gun owners is much smaller...

Those are "estimates" and I'm putting a higher number of gun owners than the official estimates of only "36%-40% of households have guns"

 

[Longwalkhome]

Their fantasy world is what has created the world we currently live in. They are just delusional.

Caught a story on Rumble last night with a investigation of where all the millions of illegals are staying. To make this gun related I relate illegals with crime and thus part of the gun debate.

The story said that a huge failed hotel in NYC was bought in a joint venture by Pakistan and the CCP. The reporter said the US government is footing the bill for the illegals to stay in the hotel to the tune of $97,000 A DAY.

This is our real world as they flood the streets with criminals and support the criminals needs.

 

[RX-79G]

A flood of loaded guns? Where is that happening, only a very few of society overall actually carries a gun in public.

Suggesting that they suffered a loss for not getting their way without giving something else up is like saying a theif suffered a loss if his victim refused and fought back. Taking away another persons rights is not a compromise in any way.

No one could carry a concealed gun legally, which the left considered safe and normal. Cops preferred it that way as well. How is that change not giving something up?



Are you really that unable to empathise with other POVs?

 

[ma96782]

The CCP needs an example to "clone".

Or

Maybe, it's a matter of????


Aloha, Mark

 

[ma96782]

Caught a story on Rumble last night with a investigation of where all the millions of illegals are staying. To make this gun related I relate illegals with crime and thus part of the gun debate.

The story said that a huge failed hotel in NYC was bought in a joint venture by Pakistan and the CCP. The reporter said the US government is footing the bill for the illegals to stay in the hotel to the tune of $97,000 A DAY.

This is our real world as they flood the streets with criminals and support the criminals needs.

Note : After they leave (get relocated). The Hotel owners can/will sure for "damages". Yup....and they'll collect to "remodel" at Taxpayer's expense.

Rrrrrrrright........

Hotels sue San Francisco over damage by homeless during Covid pandemic

San Francisco could have to pay more than $10 million for damage to hotels allegedly caused by homeless people it housed during the pandemic.As Covid swept acro

www.thetimes.co.uk

Aloha, Mark

 

[RX-79G]

Its not nonsense. Liberals want a total socialist state. But thats the antithesis of individual liberties. Theres some truth in both topics here, your correct the majority of gun control is driven by crime, but not all. Historically governments have always controlled or prohibited arms as a means of control...

No they don't.

Look, you need to know your enemy. Not live in a conspiracy driven fantasy world because that makes your politics easier. Some of the stuff said here sounds like Borat.


US liberals are largely pro business and low tax compared to just about anywhere else.

 

[Member 53328]

It's not nonsense. Liberals want a total socialist state. But thats the antithesis of individual liberties. Theres some truth in both topics here, your correct the majority of gun control is driven by crime, but not all. Historically governments have always controlled or prohibited arms as a means of control...

You're waisting O2 on this one. Let him live in his own little bubble.

 

[Koda]

No they don't.

Look, you need to know your enemy. Not live in a conspiracy driven fantasy world because that makes your politics easier. Some of the stuff said here sounds like Borat.


US liberals are largely pro business and low tax compared to just about anywhere else.

Democratic Socialists are typically pro business. But you cant tell me the Progressive Socialist movement, thats largely taken over the democrat party doesnt want socialism. Whatever label one puts on it, majority rules is the antithesis of individual liberties.