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Yeah; the frame sucks for most people. The kidney pad sucks for most people. The shoulder straps, depends on the generation, usually sucks for the older ones with the short pads, and are OK for the longer pad ones... but the bags themselves are pretty good, bit heavy but simple to load. Better frames, better suspension, makes things easier. Same pocket layout but more modern materials and internal frame, like the Helikon Tek Matilda.. seems to be pretty popular and good. There are some people for whom the original frame size works but they're in the minority.ive carried ALICE packs (unmodified) and they're designed for the average sized 19 y.o. and miserable to carry if anything more than 35 pounds. I'm still amazed anyone mentions them as an option and wonder if they've even tried anything else or ever carried one!, YMMV..
They however are excellent as vehicle bags hanging off a rack, hooks, cleats or stashed in the inside of vehicle. Not so much for actual backpacking though.