As usual, GOP caves under pressure

[The Heretic]

Senate GOP signals an openness to talking about gun legislation

Senate Republicans are signaling an openness to talks with Democrats on gun violence in the aftermath of back-to-back mass shootings. As pressure builds around gun reform on Capitol Hill following …

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Exclusive: McConnell says he has directed Cornyn to engage with Democrats on a 'bipartisan solution' on gun violence | CNN Politics

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell told CNN on Thursday he met earlier in the day with Texas Sen. John Cornyn and encouraged the senior Republican senator to begin discussions with Democrats, including Sens. Chris Murphy of Connecticut and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona, to see if they can find a...

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[NeoBlackdog]

sonsabeeches...

 

[jjfitch]

1: The shooter shot his grandmother
2: She called 911
3: The shooter went directly to the school and was engaged by a SRO(72 hours later this was retracted!)
4: The shooter entered the school through an unlocked door
5: Shots were heard from within the school
6: Police made no effort to "take down" the shooter
7: On site LEO's didn't follow their own protocols for an active shooter claiming it was a hostage situation.

What a "5hit show"!

But none of these facts matter to the liberal media, The View of RINOs!

Blame the gun! Dismantle the 2A and our God given right to self protection.

So begins the usurpation of our Bill of Rights and individual rights it guarantees!

Pray for our leaders to make this a school issue and not a 2A issue!

 

[Nick Burkhardt]

I am not sure if #3 happened.

 

[User 1234]

# 3 did not happen.

The story is changing rapidly. What the videos apparently show is police handcuffing parents who tried to rush inside to save their children when the police refused to make entry. It may take months or years before the full story is known.

 

[CamoDeafie]

2020 was the last best chance to vote the lot of the House of Reps out for new people; as all 435 Seats were up for grabs, and 35something Senate Seats were also up for grabs. But nooo... people just voted for the letter by the name edit. So of course, most of the seats remained filled by do nothing career politicians... and well. Yeah.

Again, when was the last time anyone in either House or Senate repealed a gun control law without proposing/making a worse one? And no, the AWB sunsetting doesn't count.

 

[Alexx1401]

Sadly a lot of people with an R next to their name are pretty worthless. Sadly its the same, they want to keep their job so they say what they think will keep their job. Unless voters get a belly full and change? Nothing will change.

 

[nwslopoke]

I wonder how much fact checking will be performed at these talks. Suzanne Bonamici told me she supports 2A rights and speaks with her cousin, I mean gun experts. The level of gun rights the dems, their rino comrades and the NRA propose with defend us from small game and water fowl.

With yet another example in Texas, Florida the Pulse nightclub and high school, San Bernardino terrorists attack and more, law enforcement will come in to save the day when officer safety allows. Until then you are on your own.

Since the Patriot ACT and other internet snoops only track Jan 6th grandmas' and conservative websites. They tend to ignore clues where shooters make videos stating, I'm going to do this. Which happened in Santa Barbara and Florida, for example.

I hope whether it's Republicans or democrats, they are forced to show proof and facts of their proposals before adding more limits on our rights. Obviously their previous promises didn't work.

 

[TTSX]

I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes our Port Arthur.

 

[shibbershabber]

I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes our Port Arthur.

It is.

They know this is their last chance before the midterms
Republicans are all bubbleguming cucks these days... They'll cave... It will only take one or two of them to go John McCain on us.

The ONLY question is... How bad will it be

 

[ZA_Survivalist]

Im assuming small legislation:
80% bans
Online purchase restrictions
Raising the purchase age to 21

Drastic legislation:
They'll reclassify modern sporting rifles and scary semi auto pistols into NFA items. They'll still be available but now with the super double secret probation type BGC.

 

[shibbershabber]

Im thinking, like WA, they classify all semi autos as 'assault weapons', raise age for all guns to 21, ban private sales, ban mags over 10.

If they smell blood, theyre going to go for it all.

 

[The Heretic]

I think it is very likely that we will get universal background checks on all firearm transfers. I am betting that this is something that they can come to a compromise on, that gun control activists and the government wants. Universal de facto registration of firearms being the ultimate but unstated goal.

Beyond that, I cannot guess.

 

[CamoDeafie]

They probably will push for complete semiauto rifle ban, no grandfathering, along with complete body armor ban for civilians outside of LEO/Mil/Security/corporation stuff

The "compromise" would likely be UBCs, and no more private face to face sales federally. (Tell States to adopt same or lose Fed money)
They could likely get the votes to turn AR15s(both rifles and pistols) and similar semiauto rifles into another NFA category( "assault weapons") with the requisite stamps and registration but complete ban is what they're gunning for. Edit. Adding to the NFA would also give the ATF carte blanche to go after pretty much anyone who hasn't registered their AR15s or 80% lowers or the tooling.

 

[jjfitch]

I am not sure if #3 happened.

72 hours later this was retracted!

 

[nwslopoke]

None of that outside of age would have prevented this or have any affect on criminals. As usual government points the finger outward when 99% of these are a failure of government.

Gun control isn't needed. Government accountability and enforcement is needed.

 

[CamoDeafie]

None of that outside of age would have prevented this or have any affect on criminals. As usual government points the finger outward when 99% of these are a failure of government.

Gun control isn't needed. Government accountability and enforcement is needed.

Indeed.

These pushes for more laws and more punishments for 99.9% of the gun owners all are a misdirection from the simple truth that the people have failed, from the police,to the parents of such murderers, to the politicians who refuse to do anything to secure schools and use the blood of children to further politics edit and to the voters who refuse to actually vote people out and institute term limits and to the Courts for not doing their original jobs

 

[Mark]

There needs to be a system in place for notifying others in your area if you're being ATF raided or otherwise having an illegal raid commited I think. If not it'll be too easy to start picking us off one by one.

 

[shibbershabber]

This didnt happen a generation ago... Guns are more regulated now than anytime in history.
The gun debate is just the distraction for normies and a means to an end for the powers that be.

We are a sick, decaying, dying society and these outbursts of random violence are a symptom of that... But so is the rise of street crime & other targeted violence... 100k+ overdose deaths, record suicide rates & single parent families... Abortion rates, low graduation rates., etc.

We have destroyed generations of young people by disincentivising success & rewarding mediocrity... We've destroyed family structrures and demonized pride & self-reliance. We have allowed our kids to be corrupted with gender & sexual degeneracy. We have normalized drug culture, shunned tradition....

This isn't random crazies shooting people just because & the response isnt simply well meaning yet ignorant people wanting a solution.

This is the late stages of the planned destruction of America and everything it stood for.

Repunlicans, democrats, black, white, Christian, Atheist.... Everyone has had a hand in this.

This period, right now is like the 1st biopsy before finding out you body is terminally riddled with cancer.

 

[CamoDeafie]

This didnt happen a generation ago... Guns are more regulated now than anytime in history.
The gun debate is just the distraction for normies and a means to an end for the powers that be.

We are a sick, decaying, dying society and these outbursts of random violence are a symptom of that... But so is the rise of street crime & other targeted violence... 100k+ overdose deaths, record suicide rates & single parent families... Abortion rates, low graduation rates., etc.

We have destroyed generations of young people by disincentivising success & rewarding mediocrity... We've destroyed family structrures and demonized pride & self-reliance. We have allowed our kids to be corrupted with gender & sexual degeneracy. We have normalized drug culture, shunned tradition....

This isn't random crazies shooting people just because & the response isnt simply well meaning yet ignorant people wanting a solution.

This is the late stages of the planned destruction of America and everything it stood for.

Repunlicans, democrats, black, white, Christian, Atheist.... Everyone has had a hand in this.

This period, right now is like the 1st biopsy before finding out you body is terminally riddled with cancer.

On October 11, 1798, Adams penned a letter to the Massachusetts Militia. In that letter he said this:

"While our Country remains untainted with the Principles and manners, which are now producing desolation in so many Parts of the World: while she continues sincere and incapable of insidious and impious policy: We shall have the strongest reason to rejoice in the local destination assigned Us by Providence. But should the people of America, once become capable of that deep simulation towards one another and towards foreign nations, which assumes the Language of Justice and moderation while it is practicing Iniquity and Extravagance; and displays in the most captivating manner the charming Pictures of Candour and frankness and sincerity while it is rioting in rapine and Insolence: this country will be the most miserable Habitation in the World. Because we have no government armed with power capable of contending with human Passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, Ambition, Revenge or galantry, would break the strongest Cords of our Constitution as a Whale goes through a Net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."


Emphasis added by me.

John Adams was prophetic.