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AR Buffer/Recoil Springs to reduce recoil?

Discussion in 'General Firearm Discussion' started by clearconscience, Jul 31, 2010.

  1. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Anybody replace their recoil spring in their AR for reduced recoil?
    I've heard of people doing this for better accuracy, etc. If you have with success, what did you use? Where did you get it?

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  2. Riot

    Riot Benton County, Washington Well-Known Member

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    If you need to reduce the recoil in a .223 you probably should get a 10/22
     
  3. madcratebuilder

    madcratebuilder Ardenwald, OR Well-Known Member

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    There's not much recoil to reduce. Buffers are replaced to make the rifle smoother and/or quieter. Lot of people don't like the "spong" sound of the oem spring and tube assemble.
     
  4. huntpotter

    huntpotter SW WA Negotiator Bronze Supporter

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    I think Wolff sells a replacement spring that is a little stronger. It's good to have an extra recoil spring anyway, for your spare parts kit. For that matter, get an extra recoil spring and a buffer. Accuracy improvements might be due to longer lockup time, with a heavier bolt carrier, or heavier buffer, or a slightly stiffer spring.

    Threre are different weights of buffers for AR carbine. They don't necessarily reduce recoil, but they do give the bolt a little more dwell time before it opens, causing a little different recoil impulse. You could try a "H" stamped buffer, that is a little heavier, to see if you like it. Also AR rifle, with longer spring and longer/heavier buffer seems to shoot a little softer, as compared to the carbine.

    Check out AR-15.com, for pages of discussion on this. barrel length, vs buffer weight. Overgassed 16" barrels vs 14.5" barrels. Lots of opinions there on this subject. I've always run a standard buffer, and never had any problems. I can't say recoil has ever been an issue with an AR. Try sitting behind a .308 bolt gun for a hundred rounds, then switch to AR, and it feels like shooting a .22.
     
  5. GSB09

    GSB09 Portland Oregon Member

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    You don't want to use a reduced power buffer spring in AR, your rifle will short stroke and make you very un-happy. The only reason to reduce felt recoil IMHO is for Gaming. Fooling with the buffer spring will not do that. You want to go to a Rifle length gas system(it slows down cycle rate). You may also want to look at an adjustable gas block, JP makes an excellent one, this reduces the amount of gas driving the BCG so you don't have the "bump" allowing for quicker follow-up shots. These are used in conjunction with JP's light weight bolt carrier and buffer. This combination makes for an extremely controllable rifle with a very quick follow up shots.
     
  6. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    There is also the pig tail style gas tube that is the same length as a rifle gas tube but wraps around a carbine barrel. I have also seen the shock absorber style buffer systems in the Brownell's catalog. Enedine is one maker I believe. I have not used either system as I have never had a problem with the standard buffers. If you really don't like the recoil, try a shooting jacket with recoil pad. If that looks a little weird then get an IBA and affix a recoil pad to the MOLLE which would also index the weapon to your shoulder. Now that would be "TACTICAL" instead of weird...:)
     
  7. terrylf72

    terrylf72 Portland, Oregon, United States Member

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    In the September Issue of Guns&Ammo : combat tactics there is an artical "Bringing the M4 up to Spec!" there are 5 or 6 stages of upgrades or spec's and I beleave talks about buffers.
     
  8. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    For the record, I'm not trying to get rid of the recoil. I'm not that weak......Well kinda.

    I had a H&R 30-06 that kicked like a SOB! And after shooting that the AR feels like butta!

    But I had a co-worker that had an Uncle, blah, blah, blah that worked with the U.S. Special Forces on custom AR/HK parts and he was telling me about an HK recoil spring that they used on their M4's. I don't know the guy was pretty smart when it came to guns so I thought I would check it out.

    I'm not a ......(cat) I swear.
     
  9. jordanvraptor

    jordanvraptor Oregon City, Oregon Well-Known Member

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    I haven't heard of a special buffer but I was never in Special Forces so maybe it was a secret squirrel thing. No doubt that if it is made by HK it is 10x better than anything made by a cowboy company and would raise your coolness factor as well. :)

    Seriously, they are probably referring to the heavier buffer which isn't really to handle recoil but to slow down cyclic rate and improve reliability by giving the feeding cycle more momentum. This is usually only a factor with full auto M4's not the 3 round burst standard version. You might give a call to Bravo Company or another high end manufacturer.

    If you call HK, speak with an accent, identify yourself as a Colonel in Army Weapons Development and PURCHASING, and they might tell you how much better their stuff is than what the Belgians make... :) Just kidding to all the HK lovers out there. :)
     
  10. clearconscience

    clearconscience Vancouver, WA Well-Known Member

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    Yeah fair enough.
    I'm sure there's something out the to make it better, there always is, but for running around shooting at paper targets the standard recoil spring will suffice.
    I will just drop the tampon and give my wife her skirt back.

    Thanks Y'all!
     
  11. Redcap

    Redcap Lewis County, WA Well-Known Member

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    This. Whoever thinks a .223/5.56 has too much recoil needs to change out of their skirt and into their big girl pants.

    Really, it probably isn't the rifle effecting your accuracy...it is the shooter.