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Well, at least they're up front about it! THIS is how we lose.

"U.S.A.-(AmmoLand.com)- An official with the gun prohibition lobbying group “March for Our Lives” has acknowledged his group expects action on gun control for having worked to elect an anti-gun Congressional majority and president...."
 
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One party stirred up a real mob to gain power. As always happens now they are finding out that controlling the mob you stir up is never going to happen the way you hoped. Look at how some of the "old guard" law makers are now often finding themselves the target of the "young progressive" law makers they were so proud of. The mob always start to turn on each other and they are seeing it big time now. Its the one funny part of all this. Watching them turn on each other when they find that temper tantrums stop working. The mid term elections may be quite entertaining here to come.
 
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One party stirred up a real mob to gain power. As always happens now they are finding out that controlling the mob you stir up is never going to happen the way you hoped. Look at how some of the "old guard" law makers are now often finding themselves the target of the "young progressive" law makers they were so proud of. The mob always start to turn on each other and they are seeing it big time now. Its the one funny part of all this. Watching them turn on each other when they find that temper tantrums stop working. The mid term elections may be quite entertaining here to come.
Only if there are honest elections. How can that be achieved? I am asking honestly, how do folks here see actual vote integrity being achieved in the United States?


That was nearly 6 years ago.

How about if we trust the science, from just 3 years ago.


If we think anything will ever be corrected in this country before we have honest and fair elections, I fear we are being at the very least naive.
 
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Only if there are honest elections. How can that be achieved? I am asking honestly, how do folks here see actual vote integrity being achieved in the United States?


That was nearly 6 years ago.

How about if we trust the science, from just 3 years ago.


If we think anything will ever be corrected in this country before we have honest and fair elections, I fear we are being at the very least naive.
Sadly there has always been some "corruption" in the voting. Again though this is the voters getting what they asked for as this is what they want. A LOT of freedom loving have a book of excuses they drag out every couple years for why they will not vote. This is on the first page of that book. Until a real large mass of those who claim they want freedom are willing to put that book of excuses down and vote well this will never change. The people who win do not win with 10% of the vote legit and the rest "stolen". We still have too many who just want someone else to "do something" while they sit on their hands. Better yet they are waiting for the patriots who are going to change this by force. Right, the guys siting home with the TV on and a beer saying someone else will do it are going to save us. We truly do get the government we deserve. :(
 
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Sadly there has always been some "corruption" in the voting. Again though this is the voters getting what they asked for as this is what they want. A LOT of freedom loving have a book of excuses they drag out every couple years for why they will not vote. This is on the first page of that book. Until a real large mass of those who claim they want freedom are willing to put that book of excuses down and vote well this will never change. The people who win do not win with 10% of the vote legit and the rest "stolen". We still have too many who just want someone else to "do something" while they sit on their hands. Better yet they are waiting for the patriots who are going to change this by force. Right, the guys siting home with the TV on and a beer saying someone else will do it are going to save us. We truly do get the government we deserve. :(
We're not talking about corruption in voting. We're talking about the anti-gunners demanding action because they helped elect an anti-gun majority in Congress and an anti-gun administration.
Our side doesn't seem to get this...as illustrated by how fast this thread has veered away from the OP to a rant about voter ID and voting machines.
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We're not talking about corruption in voting. We're talking about the anti-gunners demanding action because they helped elect an anti-gun majority in Congress and an anti-gun administration.
Our side doesn't seem to get this...as illustrated by how fast this thread has veered away from the OP to a rant about voter ID and voting machines.
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Threads drift, it's part of the "net". As I said at first it is funny to watch the mob as they turn on each other. The people who love freedom do exactly the same thing though. Every election there is going to be a winner. A LOT of gun owners refuse to vote for the "best choice" because they were not "good enough" on "gun issues". So they show everyone how smart they are by helping the worst person win. Well that sure fixes the problem. :s0092:
 

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If we think anything will ever be corrected in this country before we have honest and fair elections, I fear we are being at the very least naive.
The particularly shrill squawking for "reforms" will come after the midterms when the party currently in power finds themselves in the minority.
Remember 2016-202? It was wall-to-wall collusion, meddling, voter suppression, and fraud. We were told daily that our elections system was broken... til they won and changed their minds.
It'll be back in 2022.
You're larger point is correct though. THEY won't be doing dick about it either.
 
I can see that they will try and push to let AI vote for us in the future. The AI voting tabulator will have the ability to scan everyone's online activity, social media, past voting history and your life's trends and actions. Once it compiles and assembles your profile, it will determine your party and cast your vote depending on your life activity curve. TPTB will claim there is no longer a need for polling stations, voter ID, wasteful election campaigns, etc. Just remember, AI is from the government and is here to help. :s0033:
 

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Most of the problems in the system can be traced back to first past the post voting. A ranked choice system would solve a lot of problems.

TL,DR; Ranked choice voting encourages moderates.
 
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